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Bateyes
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Need a test grower for those seeds??? I know of one, nudge-nudge; wink-wink!
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HomeGrownRx
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Update
I have update pics! i was out of town for the last week so i had someone else take care of my plants. there were some bug problems, over watering and underwatering problems as well as a few dead plants when i returnd but overall they look better than i expected.
I started feeding them all with more nutrients today. epsom slat, floanova bloom and some maxigrow. i had given them all a lot of fertilizer from seed, this killed several plants, only the stronger ones survived. when looking at the pics remembere that ive been stressing the hell out of these plants so they may look a little unhealthy. the result though, califlower will be one nice strain.
Heres the feminized seed run, i started another wave of seeds today to continue this. i took off most of the dead leaves (died while i was gone)
here is a pic of both of the female califlowers that have been treated with CS. they both have balls all over them and the older one is starting to shed pollen. the other females are starting to show signs of pollination. ill be doing more pollination by hand tomorrow.
here is a califlower female that is in the seed box. the node spacing is virtually non existent, its like each node forms directly on top of the previous one! sooo dense. tiny little plant by design. its only in a gallon of soil and under really bright light. she is so dense and sexy!
here is a califlower and a hbd. the hbd is in the back and the califlower is in the front. the cali is about 1 week older than the hbd. the difference is very noticeable.
heres sophie the califlower from above from the top
here she is from the side
sophies cola
and here is sophie and stacy side by side. the taller one (better one) is the califlower and the other is a HBD.
hers stacy the HBD. the buds are not as full though it is younger. the node spacing in larger and its a skinnier plant than the califlower
again showing the difference between the hbd and the califlower, here are the leaves. the first one is the califlower
The califlower has larger longer leaves while the hbd has very short broader leaves. i dont have a picture of the fast bud #2 leaves right now for comparison but the califlower is a perfect hybrid between the two plants.
Any one have any comments? I started at least 20 califlower seeds today. im going to build a support to get all my plants closer to the hps and then the califlowers i just started will be used for more feminized seeds as well as for my show girls.
does anyone have any experience preserving an entire plant? i want to grow some califlower out to completion and then spray it with plastic or similar so that it stays green and such. i want to use it as a display at the clubs next to my seed display.
I have update pics! i was out of town for the last week so i had someone else take care of my plants. there were some bug problems, over watering and underwatering problems as well as a few dead plants when i returnd but overall they look better than i expected.
I started feeding them all with more nutrients today. epsom slat, floanova bloom and some maxigrow. i had given them all a lot of fertilizer from seed, this killed several plants, only the stronger ones survived. when looking at the pics remembere that ive been stressing the hell out of these plants so they may look a little unhealthy. the result though, califlower will be one nice strain.
Heres the feminized seed run, i started another wave of seeds today to continue this. i took off most of the dead leaves (died while i was gone)
here is a pic of both of the female califlowers that have been treated with CS. they both have balls all over them and the older one is starting to shed pollen. the other females are starting to show signs of pollination. ill be doing more pollination by hand tomorrow.
here is a califlower female that is in the seed box. the node spacing is virtually non existent, its like each node forms directly on top of the previous one! sooo dense. tiny little plant by design. its only in a gallon of soil and under really bright light. she is so dense and sexy!
here is a califlower and a hbd. the hbd is in the back and the califlower is in the front. the cali is about 1 week older than the hbd. the difference is very noticeable.
heres sophie the califlower from above from the top
here she is from the side
sophies cola
and here is sophie and stacy side by side. the taller one (better one) is the califlower and the other is a HBD.
hers stacy the HBD. the buds are not as full though it is younger. the node spacing in larger and its a skinnier plant than the califlower
again showing the difference between the hbd and the califlower, here are the leaves. the first one is the califlower
The califlower has larger longer leaves while the hbd has very short broader leaves. i dont have a picture of the fast bud #2 leaves right now for comparison but the califlower is a perfect hybrid between the two plants.
Any one have any comments? I started at least 20 califlower seeds today. im going to build a support to get all my plants closer to the hps and then the califlowers i just started will be used for more feminized seeds as well as for my show girls.
does anyone have any experience preserving an entire plant? i want to grow some califlower out to completion and then spray it with plastic or similar so that it stays green and such. i want to use it as a display at the clubs next to my seed display.
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realcarlos
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Their looking good.
The plant that you sprayed and the one that you'll be pollinating are they same age?
Did you have to manually open the female pods to collect pollen?
When did you know the pollen was ready?
How many seeds are you expecting?
How long did you have to spray for before you noticed the changes? Once you noticed the female pods did you stop spraying?
The plant that you sprayed and the one that you'll be pollinating are they same age?
Did you have to manually open the female pods to collect pollen?
When did you know the pollen was ready?
How many seeds are you expecting?
How long did you have to spray for before you noticed the changes? Once you noticed the female pods did you stop spraying?
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BOMBUDZ
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Hey nice project u got there.. as for preserving your plant..I know of some things first one that cones to mind is to cut your plant stick the stem in a jar of dessicant this will dry it and preserve the color n form to a degree..Ill have to think hard or look around the house for the other ways...sometimes lemon juice could be used to save colors but I dont know for buds I used to do this with flowers....ahh dont remember right now Ill tell ya when i figure it out
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HomeGrownRx
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I harvested some of sophie, at 62 day old (from germination) califlower 2 days ago and today. i harvested the top cola. on close inspection the density will be higher in a few days and the majority of the trichromes are clear. the bud looks great it just needs another week. id say it will be at my preferred peak thc content at 70 to 75 days old.
i started more califlower seeds and have them under better conditions.
the silver treated females in the cabinet are releasin tons of pollen. All of the females in the cabinet are completly fertilzed and have really nice seeds at about 1/2 maturity.
Im selling all of my mother plants (12 of em!) and putting clones of each into a single pot that i will use to keep them in storage while taking up little space. Im expanding the califlower production, i will continue to be selecting for superb genetics. I have killed half my plants for being male (only feminized pollen incase of contamination) and another half of them for not living up to my standards. As i begin to start paying more attention to my plants ill post more pictures.
would love to hear from others who have used the silver or are growing the califlowers.
this feminzed f2 generation of califlower has much larger, rounder seeds unlike the f2 generation which was ver much like the seed of thier fast bud #2 mother. from this i think that the f2 generation will be a much more stable hybrid. Ive noticed two phenotypes between the 15 or so ive grown out to close to completion. seeds seem to be the same on every plant but 1/2 have the stretched out larger structure of the fast bud #2 which will be great for the outdoor variety while the super short super compact phenotype is more like the himalayan blue diesel and will be great for indoors. Ill start selecting for these two phenotypes as well as start screening for the hog and ducks foot x califlower hybrids as soon as i sell my mother photo period plants so i have the rom
i started more califlower seeds and have them under better conditions.
the silver treated females in the cabinet are releasin tons of pollen. All of the females in the cabinet are completly fertilzed and have really nice seeds at about 1/2 maturity.
Im selling all of my mother plants (12 of em!) and putting clones of each into a single pot that i will use to keep them in storage while taking up little space. Im expanding the califlower production, i will continue to be selecting for superb genetics. I have killed half my plants for being male (only feminized pollen incase of contamination) and another half of them for not living up to my standards. As i begin to start paying more attention to my plants ill post more pictures.
would love to hear from others who have used the silver or are growing the califlowers.
this feminzed f2 generation of califlower has much larger, rounder seeds unlike the f2 generation which was ver much like the seed of thier fast bud #2 mother. from this i think that the f2 generation will be a much more stable hybrid. Ive noticed two phenotypes between the 15 or so ive grown out to close to completion. seeds seem to be the same on every plant but 1/2 have the stretched out larger structure of the fast bud #2 which will be great for the outdoor variety while the super short super compact phenotype is more like the himalayan blue diesel and will be great for indoors. Ill start selecting for these two phenotypes as well as start screening for the hog and ducks foot x califlower hybrids as soon as i sell my mother photo period plants so i have the rom
realcarlos
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Did you have to manually release the pollen from the C.S treated plants or did it release by itself?
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HomeGrownRx
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its doing so by itself on the first plant that was treated with the silver. the second plant has balls all over it but is not releasing pollen yet.
i just removed a feminized seed off of a califlower, the seeds look like they have completely formed, they just need to harden off.
im going to go get the dates off the plants. I really think that spraying every day with silver is a better method. I haven't sprayed either plant since they started showing balls. every other day does work but not as well.
brb
i just removed a feminized seed off of a califlower, the seeds look like they have completely formed, they just need to harden off.
im going to go get the dates off the plants. I really think that spraying every day with silver is a better method. I haven't sprayed either plant since they started showing balls. every other day does work but not as well.
brb
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HomeGrownRx
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Ok so here’s the spacing between the female to male plant (CS) and the female seed bearing plant:
Pollen releasing plant (female treated with cs)
Seedling broke ground 10-11-2011
Female sex was confirmed 10-25-2011 (14 days yay!)
I started applying silver almost every day the day sex showed 10-25-2011
Balls were confirmed on
Pollen started to release approximately 11-26-2011
So it took 4 weeks for from when the silver was first added to the release of viable pollen.
The female plant that APPEARS to be producing the most seed:
Seedling broke ground 10-19-2011
Female sex showed around the 29-30th (ish)
Pollination started as soon as the pollen was released 11-26-2011
As of today ever single bud is pollinated I’m guessing 1 week before the first viable seed and 3 weeks for optimal maturity.
Another plant broke ground 10-12 and showed sex 10-29. It appears that it is producing less seeds
So the preliminary results of this feminized seed run shows its best to:
Spray with silver everyday as soon as female sex shows. It takes weeks for balls to show (stop treating with silver a few days later) and 4 weeks until viable pollen is released. A female that is started a week or 2 after sex shows (and silver starts) seems to line up perfectly. I have female (seed producers) I started later that didn’t produce any bud before the pollen was released. The buds were pollinated as soon as the appeared. The result is seeded females with very little bud and very little seed.
It is definitely better to have a female a few weeks into flower when pollen production starts.
A final plant seed to weight ratio (to make up for some of the phonotypical variation) will be posted as soon as the plants are harvested. Really looking forward to trying out these seeds!
Pollen releasing plant (female treated with cs)
Seedling broke ground 10-11-2011
Female sex was confirmed 10-25-2011 (14 days yay!)
I started applying silver almost every day the day sex showed 10-25-2011
Balls were confirmed on
Pollen started to release approximately 11-26-2011
So it took 4 weeks for from when the silver was first added to the release of viable pollen.
The female plant that APPEARS to be producing the most seed:
Seedling broke ground 10-19-2011
Female sex showed around the 29-30th (ish)
Pollination started as soon as the pollen was released 11-26-2011
As of today ever single bud is pollinated I’m guessing 1 week before the first viable seed and 3 weeks for optimal maturity.
Another plant broke ground 10-12 and showed sex 10-29. It appears that it is producing less seeds
So the preliminary results of this feminized seed run shows its best to:
Spray with silver everyday as soon as female sex shows. It takes weeks for balls to show (stop treating with silver a few days later) and 4 weeks until viable pollen is released. A female that is started a week or 2 after sex shows (and silver starts) seems to line up perfectly. I have female (seed producers) I started later that didn’t produce any bud before the pollen was released. The buds were pollinated as soon as the appeared. The result is seeded females with very little bud and very little seed.
It is definitely better to have a female a few weeks into flower when pollen production starts.
A final plant seed to weight ratio (to make up for some of the phonotypical variation) will be posted as soon as the plants are harvested. Really looking forward to trying out these seeds!
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HomeGrownRx
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Its ok pippik, i appreciate your interest! There are numerous ways to make feminized seeds. The route that im experimenting with is using a product called "colloidal silver" which ive made into a spray.
The colloidal siver spray (referred to as CS) is sprayed on a female autoflower plant starting the day that it is confirmed female. in my last post i mentioned that i had buds growing on my califlower at 14 days this is when i started spraying the whole plant down with the CS. It too 4 weeks from the first time i sprayed but the plant eventually started growing into a male and at 4 weeks was releasing pollen. This intersex plant (the one sprayed with cs and releasing pollen) is used to pollinate all the other females. The result is seeds growing on the female plants which when germinated will result in female only plants (or very close to that). i may have a few feminized seeds as early as a week from now (probably 2 weeks). when i harvest them ill pop em asap to confirm they are female. i expect them to be 100% female. i plan to never grow males again.
a lot of people dont like female seeds, especially people afraid of herms forming. Ive popped several feminized seeds in my time and have yet to have a problem. i guess we will see! Im keeping several hundred seeds of every generation but i dont expect there to ever be a herm problem.
The colloidal siver spray (referred to as CS) is sprayed on a female autoflower plant starting the day that it is confirmed female. in my last post i mentioned that i had buds growing on my califlower at 14 days this is when i started spraying the whole plant down with the CS. It too 4 weeks from the first time i sprayed but the plant eventually started growing into a male and at 4 weeks was releasing pollen. This intersex plant (the one sprayed with cs and releasing pollen) is used to pollinate all the other females. The result is seeds growing on the female plants which when germinated will result in female only plants (or very close to that). i may have a few feminized seeds as early as a week from now (probably 2 weeks). when i harvest them ill pop em asap to confirm they are female. i expect them to be 100% female. i plan to never grow males again.
a lot of people dont like female seeds, especially people afraid of herms forming. Ive popped several feminized seeds in my time and have yet to have a problem. i guess we will see! Im keeping several hundred seeds of every generation but i dont expect there to ever be a herm problem.
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