Breeding F5?

[Blu_tri]

I'm just gonna clone some autos. Reverse some and chuck pollen on the others. Then grow what I create and keep what I like and give away what I dont like to friends. The start of my breeding project. If any of the f1s come out with one good pheno and plant to work with from there I'll work with that line to be my basis to breed from. But first its just chucking pollen til I find something that is extraordinary to witk with and breed past f1.

That’s the same approach I took.
First I grew the strains several times to have a good idea of what phenos that it held.
Next I waited on the perfect combination of phenos that I was looking for. This was done in accordance to size, growth rate, terpene profile, resilience, and ease to grow.
Also I picked plants that thrived in my growing conditions and appears healthier than the others.
Bud size was a factor. The taste, and what the high was like, or how long the high lasted. These factors were selected in accordance to my personal preference.
When I got the results that was after, I only bred from that line. However I continued to used the same selection criteria as I continued to develop my line into my Nympho strain.
What I learned from it all? I learned how different every plant can be even though they all look the same. How they all smell similar and have different undertones.
Also, sometime the top will smell different from the bottom.
Recently I harvested one, that every bud smelled differently. Grapes, bubblegum, lemon, oranges, gas, chem, buttercream, vanilla candy, and apples were all displayed on one plant. So terpene isolation is a non factor. Thus the reason for cloning.
Growing cannabis is an significant time investment. Money invested in a grow is secondary when compared to the value of time.
Therefore when I grow a strain, I prefer for it to be well worth the time that I have to invest in it.
The stoner in me tend to over complicate things. Enjoy ya’ll.

 

[NorthernLights_420]

That’s the same approach I took.
First I grew the strains several times to have a good idea of what phenos that it held.
Next I waited on the perfect combination of phenos that I was looking for. This was done in accordance to size, growth rate, terpene profile, resilience, and ease to grow.
Also I picked plants that thrived in my growing conditions and appears healthier than the others.
Bud size was a factor. The taste, and what the high was like, or how long the high lasted. These factors were selected in accordance to my personal preference.
When I got the results that was after, I only bred from that line. However I continued to used the same selection criteria as I continued to develop my line into my Nympho strain.
What I learned from it all? I learned how different every plant can be even though they all look the same. How they all smell similar and have different undertones.
Also, sometime the top will smell different from the bottom.
Recently I harvested one, that every bud smelled differently. Grapes, bubblegum, lemon, oranges, gas, chem, buttercream, vanilla candy, and apples were all displayed on one plant. So terpene isolation is a non factor. Thus the reason for cloning.
Growing cannabis is an significant time investment. Money invested in a grow is secondary when compared to the value of time.
Therefore when I grow a strain, I prefer for it to be well worth the time that I have to invest in it.
The stoner in me tend to over complicate things. Enjoy ya’ll.

I think I'm gonna cross Mephistos Jammy Dodgers×Orange-utan. I wasnt disappointed in anything I grown from them so far. The purple nuggets indica I grew and am growing another now that's flowering was my favorite f5 auto I have smoked yet and my wifes also. I really want to buy more of her seeds and work with breeding the purple nuggets

 

[NorthernLights_420]

I was just wondering in the original post if heeding blueberry f5 male with a female if the seeds will come out the same as the parents genetic wise or if it wud make it more stable or less stable. Guess learning some stuff about breeding is a lil confusing to me. I get how to do it. I just question what's going to happen. I was hoping for the same stable strain as what I'm starting with is all.

 

[Blu_tri]

This would depend on how well bred the female is. For example if she is from 4 different parents, she will produce offsprings of the 4 different parents. All of which will be dominated by the blueberry.
If she is at least f3 she may produce something that’s 50/50 her/blueberry. But the chances are smaller to get that cross because the blue berry is better breed being a f5.
That’s why you really have to know what it is. How many different parents that are in it. or how long it has been breed as a line. The f- whatever. And if the breeder is being honest.
But When you breed his plant, you will know if he is lying by the different phenos his plant produce. It takes a lot of homework, and a lot of luck to hit it just right.

 

[NorthernLights_420]

I done a little research on breeding and the charts give me a headache. Lol. I dont understand the charts fully yet. But I will continue to read and learn. I know theres lots to learn. I'm excited to start making seeds regardless of what happens. If they're great awesome. If not then oh well I'll give em away if I dont like em. Once i start finding the phenos I like I'll start working my real breeding projects.

 

[Blu_tri]

I done a little research on breeding and the charts give me a headache. Lol. I dont understand the charts fully yet. But I will continue to read and learn. I know theres lots to learn. I'm excited to start making seeds regardless of what happens. If they're great awesome. If not then oh well I'll give em away if I dont like em. Once i start finding the phenos I like I'll start working my real breeding projects.

Yes work the phenos that you like.
If you start with good stock, the potential to get better is always there. That’s where the luck comes in.
Mephisto for trusted proven genetics l with good potency
Fastbuds for modern structure, great terps wnd good yields.
Dutch passions has been doing it forever. There is lots of old school goodies in the background of those plants.
You have to think about the direction you plants are headed and prepare for its future.
You have to make your own decisions as to what is considered good to you. Then you have to take in consideration the taste of other if you are planning to bring your strain to market. If you are the only one that likes it, who do you think is gong to buy it.
I recommend passing it out to family and friends. Accept their criticism and use it to build on. No you cannot please everyone, however you can please most.

 

[NorthernLights_420]

Yes work the phenos that you like.
If you start with good stock, the potential to get better is always there. That’s where the luck comes in.
Mephisto for trusted proven genetics l with good potency
Fastbuds for modern structure, great terps wnd good yields.
Dutch passions has been doing it forever. There is lots of old school goodies in the background of those plants.
You have to think about the direction you plants are headed and prepare for its future.
You have to make your own decisions as to what is considered good to you. Then you have to take in consideration the taste of other if you are planning to bring your strain to market. If you are the only one that likes it, who do you think is gong to buy it.
I recommend passing it out to family and friends. Accept their criticism and use it to build on. No you cannot please everyone, however you can please most.

I been working with Fast Buds, Mephisto, Sweet Seeds, Auto Seeds, Bomb Seeds for Autos and DJ Short for photos

 

[Blu_tri]

I been working with Fast Buds, Mephisto, Sweet Seeds, Auto Seeds, Bomb Seeds for Autos and DJ Short for photos

Blueberriy for size. It known to have a weaker potency. Your tolerance will determine that. Size is always a good place to start because your plants will shrink as you continue to line them out. Plus the flavor will make a great base for your strains.
Now decide what twist that you want to add. You may have to bump up the potency some. You don’t want to grow tolerance to it after a week of use.
Think about How long of grow time you want to have. Color, density. You can work these attributes out one at a time or use a strain that add multiple attributes at once. Have a plan, but always take a blessing if they appear. Stay open minded. And take your time. You get out of it, what you put into it. Do your thing bro.

 

[HemiSync]

And if the breeder is being honest.
But When you breed his plant, you will know if he is lying by the different phenos his plant produce. It takes a lot of homework, and a lot of luck to hit it just right.

This is why, even though I only breed for myself, I have resorted to going all the way back to the landrace Sativas I love and working it from there. I never plan on marketing them or even trading them. My only stupid goal is that by the time I retire, I have found what I’m looking for and produced thousands of seeds. Then as I travel this the country by RV, bike, and backpack drop seeds everywhere I go. Any fertile looking piece of land and especially any gardens around government buildings. :smoking:As I said, stupid, but something I have always wanted to do.

 

[NorthernLights_420]

This is why, even though I only breed for myself, I have resorted to going all the way back to the landrace Sativas I love and working it from there. I never plan on marketing them or even trading them. My only stupid goal is that by the time I retire, I have found what I’m looking for and produced thousands of seeds. Then as I travel this the country by RV, bike, and backpack drop seeds everywhere I go. Any fertile looking piece of land and especially any gardens around government buildings. :smoking:As I said, stupid, but something I have always wanted to do.

Plant a bunch of pot on Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos land. Lol watch the 2 richest guys on earth go to prison. Lol