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[fweedom]

Hello, I think u need to stable ure water make it stable between 5.7 & 6.2 and in between they u keep the precise number on.
Cause now ure ph is not stable and that is causing those leafs :smokebuds:

Isn't that the ph for hydro?

 

[dudeibeensmokin]

I know 6.2 -6.5 are good for soil.. I think the lower number is hydro... or COCO.. Ive read 5.8 for coco.. but I could be wrong..

 

[Nik]

No to use on coco, I always grow indoors on coco.
I just keep my ph steady around 6 the most important is to keep ure ph steady.
For hydro u gotta constantly check ure ph :tiphat:

 

[A4]

No to use on coco, I always grow indoors on coco.
I just keep my ph steady around 6 the most important is to keep ure ph steady.
For hydro u gotta constantly check ure ph :tiphat:

Hey Nik, it is awesome you are jumping in and helping out bro! Fweedom is growing in soil though, not coco or hydro so he should be around 6.3 - 6.8.

 

[A4]

Alright will do, you don't think it looks like nute burn? :smokebuds:

Hey fweedom, yeah it does look a little like nute burn but you will normally see the tips of your young leaves effected first with nute burn because they are the most sensitive. In your case, it looks more like your older leaves on the serrated edges are being affected. With that showing up first I am leaning more towards early Potassium. It is really hard to tell because normally you see some Calcium problems with mag and I don't see any problems with Calcium. Also with Mag you will see lime green around the edges and the centers will be green. Yours are exactly the opposite. I am thinking maybe Potassium lockout from too much N. I am also gonna have a buddy that uses stop in as well.

 

[fweedom]

Hey fweedom, yeah it does look a little like nute burn but you will normally see the tips of your young leaves effected first with nute burn because they are the most sensitive. In your case, it looks more like your older leaves on the serrated edges are being affected. With that showing up first I am leaning more towards early Potassium. It is really hard to tell because normally you see some Calcium problems with mag and I don't see any problems with Calcium. Also with Mag you will see lime green around the edges and the centers will be green. Yours are exactly the opposite. I am thinking maybe Potassium lockout from too much N. I am also gonna have a buddy that uses stop in as well.

Thanks man, if I'm lacking potassium due to lockout from to much N, what should my next move be? Should I just water with plain water to wash out the excess nitrogen? Or try to feed to get that extra potassium in?

Normally i use some ocean forest and don't need to feed for about a month, this time I used 100% happy frog. Usually I'd have this under control but its kind of confusing cause this is the first time ever had pproblems this early on they are barely over 2 weeks old and showing that

 

[Nam80232]

Your feeding to much cal mag. Notice the clawing? Cal mag is 2-0-0 and suggested at 3-5ml per gallon. Just like any nute start 1/2 strength and work your way up. Good luck! :karma Cloud:

 

[A4]

Well there ya go, lol, I think Nam was in a hurry. Yeah, I would water her with plain ph'd water, about 2x the size of the container. So for a 1 gallon container water with 2 gallons water. That should wash the excess out. I would wait until the next watering and see how she responded before adding anything else to it. Being in soil, you should have some nutes in there, the problem is too much of any nutrient will lock others out. You are better off to under feed early on than over feed especially in soil that already has nutrients in it. So, it is not like you don't have Potassium in their, the plant just can't take it up with excess N or Ca. So water real good tonight with ph'd water and see what happens. She should start coming back around after a couple of days.

 

[Nam80232]

Sorry, a4 was right. Had to get to school. As always a4 has hit it on the head. Here's a heads up, with soils be light on the nutes as the soil is already loaded with them and a little to much can lead to lockout and thats a whole different can of worms. Flush and let her get a bit larger before adding nutes. I find a 1/4tsp of cal-mag is plenty when using mineral or tap water. Watch your leafs, they'll tell you when it's time to feed again, when they uncurl the tox is past until then just keep an eye on them!

 

[fweedom]

Well there ya go, lol, I think Nam was in a hurry. Yeah, I would water her with plain ph'd water, about 2x the size of the container. So for a 1 gallon container water with 2 gallons water. That should wash the excess out. I would wait until the next watering and see how she responded before adding anything else to it. Being in soil, you should have some nutes in there, the problem is too much of any nutrient will lock others out. You are better off to under feed early on than over feed especially in soil that already has nutrients in it. So, it is not like you don't have Potassium in their, the plant just can't take it up with excess N or Ca. So water real good tonight with ph'd water and see what happens. She should start coming back around after a couple of days.

Sorry, a4 was right. Had to get to school. As always a4 has hit it on the head. Here's a heads up, with soils be light on the nutes as the soil is already loaded with them and a little to much can lead to lockout and thats a whole different can of worms.

Flush and let her get a bit larger before adding nutes. I find a 1/4tsp of cal-mag is plenty when using mineral or tap water. Watch your leafs, they'll tell you when it's time to feed again, when they uncurl the tox is past until then just keep an eye on them!

Thanks guys, one of my AWW was yellowing a bit that's why I fed that cal mag to them I should have just fed it to that one cause that ones showing no clawing at all, I'll definitely use plain water for the next watering but will just doing a regular watering with 10% runoff help at all or do I need to run 8 gallons through each pot? (using 4 gal.pots) I understand the flush but will cutting the cal mag out and just using plain water until the leaves uncurl be beneficial too? :smokebuds: