New Grower auto breeders who's who?

[AutoMan]

Oh I for sure LOVE for the autos I buy to actually auto!!! Keeps my harvesting schedules on schedule.....I will have to add...that while I've had autos that didn't, I've had many many more that did....
If I were growing outdoors as an above poster is, I too would be a bit edgy and want to make sure I got good auto seeds....being inside only, some of us have the lattitude to let'em go til they pop!!!

 

[Irish Pride]

Oh I for sure LOVE for the autos I buy to actually auto!!! Keeps my harvesting schedules on schedule.....I will have to add...that while I've had autos that didn't, I've had many many more that did....
If I were growing outdoors as an above poster is, I too would be a bit edgy and want to make sure I got good auto seeds....being inside only, some of us have the lattitude to let'em go til they pop!!!

glad you didnt take offense to my reply, thought you might but wasnt sure how else to word it.

im sort of kicking myself for letting my buddy get me hooked on this idea. im out of my element and stressing about it constantly. he's in an identical situation to myself in all ways and is calm as a cucumber happier than a pig in shit lol


his selling point? " we can grow tons of little plants in small plots all over the woods, harvest twice each season and be out of the woods before the choppers and rippers start looking and the hunters start hunting" im here loosing sleep and he's probably daydreaming about rattlesnakes guarding his plots of killer purple autos.

 

[kpex]

Irish - your original thread post was a train wreck waiting to happen. Oddly - I think your question is a valid one, and I am so proud of the forum members for not letting it go in a bad direction. Lots of good advice posted so far - so thanks to all. Hopefully anyone that does post a bad experience is from their actual grow and not a rumor they heard. So based on the responsibility of the members here, I think Autos have come a long way and are mostly all stable strains. Now in Irish's defense - a smoke report and grow report don't always mention if the plant auto'd, as inherently many are growing indoors, so its not apples to apples with the grey area of early photos, etc. As an outdoor grower myself, I have had the same concerns as Irish. But as other have mentioned - I just researched and read, and read...then read some moor until my eyes bled!

I all honesty - as you read through the AFN threads, you will start to see a trend of who's growing what. I searched many other sites and found very poor advice - mostly opinions, which didn't help me at all. However, when I came here, the group made me feel like family and there was little to no flaming and thread crapping. I now no longer visit any other forums, and this thread is a perfect example of why! Thanks AFN!

My advice is check out Automatic seeds (Automatic Seed) with the exception of HighRise Seeds, which are early photo, I can personally tell you Mossy's line are definately Auto's. You can't go wrong. I also know someone who used LBH's and all auto'd and I have his Asian Haze hopefully arriving soon - can't wait! I can also endorse the Joint Dr.'s line as have all auto'd, as well as World of Seeds auto line. Now I know you asked for the bad breeders/seeds; but I have been fortunate to have all my plants auto outside - I consider myself lucky, but I did do my homework first. I also hear Stitch has a nice lineup - I haven't grown any of his (since he doesn't sell on AFN - hint, hint Stitch! - come on now....). Also keep in mind that the breeders on this site are active on the forums, so if you have a question/problem/concern or even just a compliment - you can get ahold of them directly. That, to me at least, is amazing - not to mention the pricing is the best here.

So, before I go rambling off - Welcome to the world of Autos and I wish you the best of luck on your grows; which ever breeder you choose to go with.

 

[kpex]

his selling point? " we can grow tons of little plants in small plots all over the woods, harvest twice each season and be out of the woods before the choppers and rippers start looking and the hunters start hunting" im here loosing sleep and he's probably daydreaming about rattlesnakes guarding his plots of killer purple autos.

Depending on where you live, you can get more than two harvests in. The sweet part is most Autos stay small and are hidden easily and guarded by rattlesnakes . I would recommend you check into a perpetual grow outside - its what I do. Start the season early (if you live in a warm climate) and as you get later in the season you can switch from Autos to an early photo to get some new flavors in. Check out Cres's line from HighRise. Never used them myself, but have used early photos in past grows for late or early season outdoor runs. Works just as good as an auto if you plant it late enough when the daylight drops.... or even early enough in the spring - late winter. If you have any questions about light requirements for the early photos - just ask him.....if you haven't noticed he's already posting in your thread!

 

[Stitch]

Auto breeders????? Dutch passion, kannabia, green house, sensi seeds, nirvana seeds, etc... etc... etc.... are NOT breeders at all!!!

 

[stocious]

the only trainwreck here is society if people cant answer a question.. i mean NO offense to ANYONE but i just cant figure out how people cant say tried this , didnt work.. tried this , wasnt happy.. im gonna get some stick for this i know but ... wtf.. i mean even if it has been asked over and over. internet is fuxed up

 

[Nelson]

I think that home breeders are in some ways more reliable than the professional counterpart. Man with my local breeders club we can actually smoke the pot from out members before we buy the seeds. Wow way better it just has to be good to survive. I have not sent much money to breeders this year I have swaped at my local breeders club instead.

My advice is get together with other breeders in your area and form a small club. It will give you access to the best seeds you will ever buy.

Genetics work is what you make it and is easily 80% good luck. You have to be willing to work at it. The bit about stealing genetics is just so much horse manure. There isn't 15 degrees of seperation between all the breeders. Afghani breeds still are what is at the base of most of the seeds. Yeah there is some other primary sources but twenty generations back they are all about the same. I still breed with Trainwreck and Skunk 1. Wait a minute isn't Trainwreck from Skunk.

This is a setup for a flaming session. Asking which breeders people think are bad is pretty much asking for a flame sesh. It's definitely good that you want to figure out who has bogus autos, but we have a section for that on the forums. Look in the seed bank/strain reviews. As far as the comment on nirvana it's just a hearsay rumor about their breeding said in a negative manner, also known as flaming. Not trying to knock you down irish, your post are polite and you seem like a nice guy, I just think there's more constructive things to do than spread rumors about breeders.

 

[Irish Pride]

Depending on where you live, you can get more than two harvests in. The sweet part is most Autos stay small and are hidden easily and guarded by rattlesnakes . I would recommend you check into a perpetual grow outside - its what I do. Start the season early (if you live in a warm climate) and as you get later in the season you can switch from Autos to an early photo to get some new flavors in. Check out Cres's line from HighRise. Never used them myself, but have used early photos in past grows for late or early season outdoor runs. Works just as good as an auto if you plant it late enough when the daylight drops.... or even early enough in the spring - late winter. If you have any questions about light requirements for the early photos - just ask him.....if you haven't noticed he's already posting in your thread!

we're still having a couple nights a week here in the low 30's (f) so early planting isnt really an option without cold frame or greenhouse which also isnt really an option then theres the various hunting seasons that start first week of october and run clear through the end of febuary so late season harvesting is only an option if your comfortable crawling around in the woods while drunk rednecks shoot at everything that moves. mid summer i only have to worry about hikers and atv riders. so getting them out asap and and starting round 2 soon after is about the only safe way to do it here that i can think of

 

[Straight808]

the only trainwreck here is society if people cant answer a question.. i mean NO offense to ANYONE but i just cant figure out how people cant say tried this , didnt work.. tried this , wasnt happy.. im gonna get some stick for this i know but ... wtf.. i mean even if it has been asked over and over. internet is fuxed up

One of the reasons stocious (and I'm saying this from experience of being in many forums and not just mmj forums) is because there are a lot of noobs and nut huggers in forums that fuck everyone up with bad info. Like previously stated they fuck up an auto and flame the breeder online. Or they grow one decent mid level 1/2oz plant and they are so excited about it that they reccomend only that plant and only that breeder for the rest of their lives to everyone. Not going and publicly flaming companies is a much more efficient way to learn, just watch other people and take notes. The one thing I learned the hard way on another forum that isn't as nice as here... Just sayin man, the negative rumorsnspread like wildfire in forums and you may be playing with someone else's only way of income just because of a mere noob ass shit talking grower. And that's just one reason lol

 

[AndyBotwin]

I agree with the comments above that it's better to research the seed rather than looking at breeders as a whole. I think a much more productive thread for the OP would have been something along the lines of this:

Need suggestions for some strains that will reliably auto and finish in xx days outdoors. Should be cold-tolerant early in the season, mold/drought resistant, stealthy (short in height), prefer indica/sativa dominant, need xyz medical properties, etc. Here are some strains I've been researching, would they be suitable...

You're much better off asking directly for what you need rather than coming at it from a negative angle. For better or worse, this is the Internet, and flame wars do occur. And as a new member, our spidey sense starts tingling when you see this sort of topic come up, even if you have the best intentions. We've seen the wreckage that this sort of thread can cause on other sites, and we don't want it here. It's a testament to the quality of AFN that things stayed on the rails.

I'm indoor-only so I won't make any recommendations, but in addition to the strain reviews section, you should visit Outdoor/Greenhouse growing if you haven't already. There are plenty of people successfully doing the type of grows that you're interested in, and you've found the right place to get all the help you might need.