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Gabe said:
Quick question, I notice a lot of people say 'Don't use synthetic fertilizers, they kill off beneficial soil fungus and bacteria" and I bought into that for a while, but recently I read an article that explained that even if you do harm your soil bacteria, those colonies are capable of doubling in size every 20 minutes, so within a few hours, they will normalize.

That lead me to read a few other actual scholarly journals on the subject of synthetic fertilizers and bacteria/fungus, and in all 3 of teh papers I read, the same results were observed: bacteria colonies were not significantly affected by synthetic fertilizers, and fungus colonies consistently increased when exposed to synthetic fertilizers.

I can see why OVERfertilizing might harm these bacteria/fungi, but even in those instances, a good flush would create a growing environment where the bacteria/fungus levels should return to normal within a few hours/a day (depending on how bad you overfertilize).

Can anybody show me any actual scholarly evidence that synthetic fertilizers, used properly, harm soil bacteria/fungus, or can I safely retire this myth into the "old wives tale aka crunchy granola vegan with just enough info to sound knowledgeable" drawer?
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I've been working with turf and soil science for quite a few years now, synthetics are fine, IMHO.
Beneficials respond to changes in very small areas. A single square inch may support a specific herd, and the next square inch might be deadly to them. The variance in pH, salts, moisture throughout any soil profile will establish it's own suitable colony.
Look at the label on a good bottle of myco's, the list should be a long one for that very reason.
 
Gabe said:
Quick question, I notice a lot of people say 'Don't use synthetic fertilizers, they kill off beneficial soil fungus and bacteria" and I bought into that for a while, but recently I read an article that explained that even if you do harm your soil bacteria, those colonies are capable of doubling in size every 20 minutes, so within a few hours, they will normalize.

That lead me to read a few other actual scholarly journals on the subject of synthetic fertilizers and bacteria/fungus, and in all 3 of teh papers I read, the same results were observed: bacteria colonies were not significantly affected by synthetic fertilizers, and fungus colonies consistently increased when exposed to synthetic fertilizers.

I can see why OVERfertilizing might harm these bacteria/fungi, but even in those instances, a good flush would create a growing environment where the bacteria/fungus levels should return to normal within a few hours/a day (depending on how bad you overfertilize).

Can anybody show me any actual scholarly evidence that synthetic fertilizers, used properly, harm soil bacteria/fungus, or can I safely retire this myth into the "old wives tale aka crunchy granola vegan with just enough info to sound knowledgeable" drawer?
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organic ferts are better in quality taste and for you environment and can be made also without money efforts. they dont need to vegan. maybe this articles was meant to make you think that way with out you knowing who paid for them...keep it as natural as possible.

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So, the cat was doing his normal drive by having a drink from the fish tank... He over estimated his balance.. hahahabwahaha....
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I just got my early Christmas present! :d5::smoking:
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Renaissance Redneck said:
I've been working with turf and soil science for quite a few years now, synthetics are fine, IMHO.
Beneficials respond to changes in very small areas. A single square inch may support a specific herd, and the next square inch might be deadly to them. The variance in pH, salts, moisture throughout any soil profile will establish it's own suitable colony.
Look at the label on a good bottle of myco's, the list should be a long one for that very reason.
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See, I've been using the X-treme Gardening Mycos, with pretty decent success, but it only had one type of 'extremely resilient, aggressive" myco in it, are you familiar with x-treme gardening myco? Is it shit or passable? What would you recommend myco-wise? This is timely for me, I just ran out and am ordering some myco/azo next friday.
 
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