New Grower AFN Sold Out

[Sunny747]

Exactly what it says.. A few years ago AFN was a nice place a person could visit and discuss growing autoflowers..

Fast forward a few years and BAM.. AFN now reminds me of walking into a Spencers... If you're not familiar, this is a store that is very flashy and sells everything interesting from fart spray to "I'm with stupid" Tshirts to black light posters.. It's all cool stuff, but it's just chachkis..


There is still good info on here, but I suggest that AFN tone down the affiliate marketing a bit and get back to helping people grow good autos at an affordable price. I want to see honest reviews and real science not made up hocus pokus claims.

Stop promoting unrealistic dreams of grandeur. There is no magic pill, no magic light, no magic seed, no magic nutrient or seedbank. There are just good growing fundamentals.

I'm all for a website making money, but give people good info, not crap products..


@SonofHobbes you stole my avatar.. What's up with that?

 

[bad dragon bzzz]

huh what these lights are rubbish and this seed is a dud ?

 

[Eyes on Fire]

yaaa hes saying on my review of my Spectrum King I AM being dishonest AND if it can grow 1 plant. LMAO did 3 under it already and doing four right now,soooo. and all my beans are duds even with well over 90+% germ rate on all I personally get from the places I grow from which are mainly Stone's works ,from NW and Mephisto.

 

[Eyes on Fire]

before you post to peoples stuff,I seriously suggest getting with the program and learning who your talking too. one plant? suure,thats all Im doing next to these other three under the 100W LED from Spectrum King and am doing four now. and I grow tons. if you cant or think you cant grow under this light your a fool.and possibly a shitty grower too.

i want MY plants to look like this ..dont you?! that light is what gave me this with a decent soil. so fuck you !

this is what you posted to me,

More misrepresentations from a dishonest LED marketing campaign..

Is it a cool little light? Yes,... Is that hat cool.. Yep, sure is..
Is that enough light to grow even one plant? mmm... I guess so, but to say it replaces a 250w HPS, I don't think so.. a 250 w hps puts out 30,000 lumens this one put outs 9000-10,000... I guess if you had one autoflower in a 12x12 inch tent this is the light for you.

It's a cool light and I'm interested in the driverless concept, but looking at the raw specs there is no way this light lives up to its claims. LED is not magic, it's just slightly-moderately more efficient light than HID and Florescent at this point.

The reviews they post on their own site seal the deal for me... This company is unethical. Vegging in a 4x4 or 5x5 with a 100w light???? No way..
https://www.spectrumkingled.com/pro...light_mothers-lil-helper-100w-led-grow-light/


i know nothing of their claims nor spaces. 2.5' for flower and that is exactly what Im pushing now.

 

[Nabzter]

There is plenty of info on growing techniques and grow discussions. Nobody forces you to read any particular threads if you don't like reviews then don't read them !!!

Quite simple really.

 

[woody]

Who da fook is that guy

 

[Eyes on Fire]

i can take ANY critiques ,review or not, but directly saying something(company) is dishonest and cant even maybe do a single plant is saying to me that I AM being dishonest and tinkering with my results. so i take THAT very personally. if it sucked? i assure you I would tell you couldnt push 1 or even two plants. wouldn't you take it personally? well ,so Im wrong. still pisses me off LOL

 

[qwezdan1]

Okay, fellows. Let's not throw organic manure at each other.

@Sunny747 : You presented us with a thesis: "AFN sold out". Fine, it's a thesis. Back it up. What companies AFN is affiliated with are represented falsely? I personally would be glad if you made a list with certain claims from members of AFN administration regarding promoted products that were incorrect and biased in your opinion. That I would look into.

@Eyes on Fire I don't think you have to prove anything here. The only way you credibility would be at a question if stone cold evidence were presented. By default it's hard to imagine a grower promoting shitty product to his fellow growers.

 

[Eyes on Fire]

thats why I said learn who hes talking to I have perfect credibility. hes been here since 2014,sooo he should know whos who. so I see that as an attack. just how Im wired. saying something has been presented wrong or in question to anyone ,and saying i LOVE the light is wrong and DOES to the space.. there is a thread too ya know LOL in private ya wanna come at me? nah man,ill push back.

 

[Waira]

...we got it EoF brudda, small blame to you in any case ,... some people don't realize that none of these vendors were suggested for testing and advertising on a whim or randomly,... Fellow members and Staff did some 'pre-vetting", if you will,... why bother with anything that's lousy and would reflect badly on AFN or members? Also, the sheer ignorance of how this website is financed and run, how vendors are reviewed and taken on (or IF), who owns it, etc.,... what it was even a year ago is not what it is now, and can't be anymore... many things have changed, and to literally stay around, AFN needs to shift away from it's freewheeling, unsponsored out-of-pocket days.. it ain't workin' anymore! But our reputation for being a happy, stable, troll-free place with scores of fine growers is still our hallmark in the Cannabis forum world, and as such, any vendors dream place,..besides there are so many fine, objective, journaled grows already out there with no agenda with AFN or vendors, it's easy to verify a product with other grows.. and BTW, look closely, and you'll see some of the vendors and reviews are not showing well at all, and were fairly called on that!
..So, sorry Sunny if AFN didn't freeze in time for you,.. it grew up, and still held it's integrity... As challenged above, if you wish to make a valid point, you will need something other than rhetoric and unsubstantiated criticism,... some of your claims are absurd in the face of the evidence,... you're welcome to your opinion, you're not welcome to put words in other mouths or question another's integrity without this thing we call proof,... And if it all offends so deeply, simply leave,... others have, for similar reasons concerning the vendor business end of this evolving website,...