Thank you @st.tom we are supposed to wait till around 4/20 right? I knew I wasn't going to be able to wait to try it that's why I started something else early. Oh I have one quick question. When the competition does start do we have to germ straight into the cup or would we be allowed to put it a root plug and put that into the cup. I just want to follow the rules as closely as possible for when it actually matters.