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A brief history and linage of the Dragons

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In case you didn,t know , the mother of the Dragons is our very own Dragon master @Mossy :dragon2: :headbang:

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And this is where it all started,,, the two phenos that started the JEM Line....



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The first Coloured Hybrid Fully Auto-flowering cross in the World.​



...and led to the Black Dragon

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The first Black Leafed Autoflower in the World.​

All the crosses up to Black Dragon were high THC crosses with DC & ALF being parents of the Dragon range.

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The Black Dragon was the start of the Dragon Line..Duurty, Bobbys being pheno selections from the Black Dragon.Jem x Affy x WhiteRussian x DeepChunk.


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It was a time of dragons , to name a few,,, ,,Blood;;Blue,Magic;Stone;Russian,Thunders


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Re:cap and brought up to date for my purposes :thumbsup:

First Parent in the line JEM: Mazar-i-shariff

Second Parent Afghan :

Third parent in the line White Russian (ALF#3)

Fourth parent Deep Chunk (Black Dragon ALF#4)

Duurty, black dragon, bobbys girls are all phenos of the black dragon

ALF#5 (Giggle Juice),,,, NL Branch FD ALF#5// FD Bobby’s ww x dragon

ALF# Giggle Juice back to a White Cross..White Widow











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Afghan Little F*ck...ALF ..the Number is how many Afghans are in that particular Line... ALF#3 has 3 ALF#5 has 5

Giggle is My ALF#5

When you get a ALF#6 seed it has

JEM..Afghan Kush

Pure Afghan Auto

White Russian which was Short Stuffs White Russian #1..but I selected Afghan dom Fathers..which I Think come from the Original Auto cross.

Tom Hills Deep Chunk..direct from the breeders original stock..Afghan/kush

Mr Nice Original Northern Lights indy afghan/Thai sativa

And lastly a White Widow in the gene pool..



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The journey begins:dragon3:

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hairyman
Mossy said:
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You wanna smell that Fresia,.:pass:
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lovely,,i do want to smell it :d5: ,,i love fresia,, its one of them flowers that reminds me of childhood,,you dont see them in the shops like you once did..,,the deepchunk male is a stunner


Week 1 babies,, all healthy,, temps at night getting low last few days, going to pot the wee pots on over next couple days.
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Mossy
hairyman said:
i love fresia,, its one of them flowers that reminds me of childhood,,you dont see them in the shops like you once did.
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I Love the smell...I used to work in a flower market...they take me back too... :pass:


hairyman said:
the deepchunk male is a stunner
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Big Black laid back ball bearing stud muffin..:pass:

He is busting his sacks..but I cannot really isolate them coz of the builders...so..the other girls will likely get a dusting..the Motto is.the Only cross you Regret is the one you never made....:pass:..Addict..and Proud....
 
Mossy
hairyman said:
Week 1 babies,, all healthy,, temps at night getting low last few days, going to pot the wee pots on over next couple days
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I can actually See yours growing..compared to mine...:headbang:

:watering: Get to Know your Girl...Intimately...before you Cross her..

Why..?..coz if you don't..how can you tell the Dominance of your cross...

Example..if I put JEM and a White Widow together...and move them forward 4 generations...the Last thing I want to pull out at f4 would be either a JEM or a White Widow..:pass:..waste of work.

When I got the JEM 25% Auto ..they were White...Every Auto in the World was white.

@F2 they coloured up on me...purple/slate grey/white..if I hadn't looked..I wouldn't have Known.
Check what is In your girl before you try to Improve it with an out cross.
What you want might just be in there already..

Defining the Dominance of your cross Sound Hard if I tried to explain it in botanical terms...but IMO Humans are Trained in it and do it every day..:pass:...if you can Look at your Family and say..ah..you have your Mammies eyes..Daddies sticky out ears..and Grandas large feet..you are doing it..Simple really...

Defining Traits..for me..

JEM

coloured Bud
Clear trics...lets the bud colour shine through
Cal/mag deficiency
3-5 fingered leaf
Pointy up to the Sky leaves.
Coal black and Bronze leaf colours
Nitrogen claw
Disorganised trics

The Afghan Cross

Totally different plant Balance
really skinny stems
Different tric colour make the colours muted to ice cream colours..pale blue/pink

The White Russian.

Very similar to JEM structure
Totally Organised leaf trics..if the leaf trics look like soldiers in perfect formation like the Widow I just took down..that is the White Line showing up.
The pistils have a stronger density of White..which blurs colour more..
Good ones look like they are wearing fur coats..:biggrin:

The Deep Chunk

Broad..everything is broader on them.
7 Plus wide fingered leaves
Big man hand leaves with a central horse shoe well in the middle
Purple black leaf colour.
The deepest pistil colour density..butter milk pistils
Mass under leaf trics that curl the inner fans..
Lime grow smell (is the one I'm chasing)

The Northern Lights

More Sati dom
Pineapple and alcohol bud smell..(acid vomit..:biggrin:..)
Pink bud and pink pistils

That's me Tool Chest.....:pass:...it lets me Know WHO I'm looking at when I see the children.
 
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hairyman
:bighug: thank-you:bow:,,its special having you sharing all this :pop: and watching me back :pighug:

Mossy said:
Example..if I put JEM and a White Widow together...and move them forward 4 generations...the Last thing I want to pull out at f4 would be either a JEM or a White Widow..:pass:..waste of work.
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i remember you telling me not to throw the baby away ,look for the unusual ones,,soon after i had done the same thing :biggrin: ,,,they never showed up since

i liking the look of the W babies all-ready :thumbsup:
 
Mossy
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Sooo...red/black JEM..
Low leaf finger count..JEM..
Nitrogen sensitivity..JEM..


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Metalic leaf trait JEM..

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Ranks of trics on the leaf segments...hmmm...Probably the Whites showing through...
But the under leaf mass trics and slight leaf curl..Could be Deep Chunk too... :pass:

Strong JEM dominant...hint of Whites...or DC..easy when you See how it is done huh...?
 
Mossy
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We called into the house for the Black Widow/giggle cross...she has been drying naturally in the cupboard on the patio.

She absolutely Stinks..shoved her in a bag...didn't help much..drove back to the cabin and there is a police road block on.....:yoinks:

Luckily..it was on the lane coming into town..and we were on the one leaving...:pass:..phew....

If they had stopped us.they would have smelt it...

Winter pollenation is a Lottery...if you Hit a cold/dark patch they seeds will likely abort...so I don't Normally....
but hey..I can resist everything except temptation...and it looks like I got away with it...:pass:

Time to add 10 to water...and See.....:watering:
 
Mossy
hairyman said:
i remember you telling me not to throw the baby away ,look for the unusual ones,,soon after i had done the same thing :biggrin: ,,,they never showed up since
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That is why I Like them in big mixed pots... :pass: ....imagine a field of 5ft tall blue eyed Blondes...
Imagine a field of 5 ft blondes and 1 6ft brunette...she stands out in a Crowd..:headbang:
To assess vigor..speed..look on an even playing field....

Smoke the Standard ones and Breed the Exceptionals.....:dancer:

Remember..my Tastes might not be the same as yours..

You like the blue eyed blondes..I like the 6ft brunette...you are going to be a lot happier than me...coz the blondes are in dominance....:biggrin:..
 
hairyman
Mossy said:
Strong JEM dominant...hint of Whites...or DC..easy when you See how it is done huh...?
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:thumbsup: :bow:

Mossy said:
She absolutely Stinks..shoved her in a bag...didn't help much..drove back to the cabin and there is a police road block on.....:yoinks:
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:yoinks: how would that have turned out,,we want half?

Mossy said:
..she has been drying naturally in the cupboard
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Thats what i find best with seeds, just leave to totally dry in the bud,,they look beefy dark and brooding seeds:thumbsup:

Those little pots at day 21,,i culled most and potted one for a smoke,, these are living on poor daylight and reading lamp, t
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hairyman
Mossy said:
That is why I Like them in big mixed pots... :pass: ....imagine a field of 5ft tall blue eyed Blondes...
Imagine a field of 5 ft blondes and 1 6ft brunette...she stands out in a Crowd..:headbang:
To assess vigor..speed..look on an even playing field....

Smoke the Standard ones and Breed the Exceptionals.....:dancer:

Remember..my Tastes might not be the same as yours..

You like the blue eyed blondes..I like the 6ft brunette...you are going to be a lot happier than me...coz the blondes are in dominance....:biggrin:..
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That's half by problem I will want to follow them all :biggrin:,, I allready have some favs,, all the wee pots potted on,, they didn't flinch,,,
 
Mossy
Mossy said:
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Sooo...red/black JEM..
Low leaf finger count..JEM..
Nitrogen sensitivity..JEM..


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Metalic leaf trait JEM..

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Ranks of trics on the leaf segments...hmmm...Probably the Whites showing through...
But the under leaf mass trics and slight leaf curl..Could be Deep Chunk too... :pass:

Strong JEM dominant...hint of Whites...or DC..easy when you See how it is done huh...?
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You'll not Believe it..some of the bottom buds smelled like pineapple..but...not the nasty acid vomit/alcohol one..just pineapple fairly nice...sweet.

That is Not a smell I associate with any other cross in the mix ..Except..the Norther Lights...:biggrin: ...proper little mongrel...at Least 4 parental lines in View for Selection....:pass:...

Gene Pond...
 
Mossy
hairyman said:
:yoinks: how would that have turned out,,we want half?
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:crying: I Honestly don't know..maybe if you were a Spanish national..and the police mans cousin...
I'm Not keen to find out...:pass:

Lots of people assume it is Legal in Spain..but there is never a weekly paper when there isn't a Bust..:shrug:...so I wouldn't feel confident calling it...

hairyman said:
Those little pots at day 21,,i culled most and potted one for a smoke,, these are living on poor daylight and reading lamp, t
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They actually look Sturdy and healthy though...so good genetics for less than optimum conditions...?...:pass:

hairyman said:
That's half by problem I will want to follow them all :biggrin:,, I allready have some favs,, all the wee pots potted on,, they didn't flinch,,,
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Yup.....:thumbsup:.....then you end up with hundreds of half finished crosses...but hey...:pass:....
 

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