History

first males to show,,,nice and fast,,,

The two males that so far showed in the bigger pots have got down sized,,

hairyman said:

The two males that so far showed in the bigger pots have got down sized,,View attachment 1167501View attachment 1167502

Click to expand...

How they Hanging @hairyman ...?....

Ball Balanced...?

Mossy said:

How they Hanging @hairyman ...?....

Ball Balanced...?

Click to expand...

Well they 21 days old on Tuesday, the two that showed sex early are allready dropping(no colour to sacs) , the rest are sexing day by day,, looks like going to be favoured to females,,its a bit crazy, some have been repotted 3 times allready,, the pot where you can see the green peg,, he getting downsized but he a fav


From the w set,, I love it,, its like a robber crab, thrown out a 7 leaf on second set


You seeing any favs from the previous pictures ,, once they all sexed will take stock of who's staying, I want to end up with all the big pots with girls and a few males to choose from that are downsized seperatley

hairyman said:

Well they 21 days old on Tuesday, the two that showed sex early are allready dropping(no colour to sacs) , the rest are sexing day by day,, looks like going to be favoured to females,,its a bit crazy, some have been repotted 3 times allready,, the pot where you can see the green peg,, he getting downsized but he a fav
View attachment 1168067

From the w set,, I love it,, its like a robber crab, thrown out a 7 leaf on second set
View attachment 1168082

You seeing any favs from the previous pictures ,, once they all sexed will take stock of who's staying, I want to end up with all the big pots with girls and a few males to choose from that are downsized seperatley

Click to expand...

Well..I was going to Ask..what is it Exactly that you are looking for...Colour I know.....but bud colour..leaf colour..pistil colour....?
The gene pool has it all..so what you after...?

Last photo is gloriously DC dom...See the horse shoe shape where the leaf fingers join the stem...?
Dead giveaway.

Over stuffed overhead...very typical....

Check male ball stems looking for red/pink stalks..

Mossy said:

Last photo is gloriously DC dom...See the horse shoe shape where the leaf fingers join the stem...?
Dead giveaway.

Click to expand...

Yep I had it down at that,, In general all sets are very similar within them self's,
The middle k is cream of crop but the bottom one which I think is jem dom sings to me. The 3 B on left are nice with the bottom one by fav

So top 4 are k and bottom 2 W that tray might just become an orgy

3 W all similar

And my tent fav the robber crab



I thinking this is jem dom,, it's the only one with a sharper arrow head finger to the leaf,, it threw out some funky early leaves and showing n tox

Mossy said:

Check male ball stems looking for red/pink stalks..

Click to expand...

Been checking sacs and pistols with loupe looking for colour,, lots of stems from all sets showing red/pink,, and balls are even on the males

ATTACH=full]1168860[/ATTACH]

Mossy said:

..I was going to Ask..what is it Exactly that you are looking for...Colour I know.....but bud colour..leaf colour..pistil colour....?
The gene pool has it all..so what you after...?

Click to expand...

Oh boy,, that's the problem allready,, I got a nice male from k and w and 4 girls I like,, knowing B heritage and that they haven't produced a male I going to have to seed a branch or two from one.
so whilst i want to find my own dragon i also want to look back to see if i can dig out a jem or black


Let's look at the males



Two W very similar, both sexed fast, both resilient,, both typical to most others apart from the robber


The cream of K,, this looks a better match for the robber




Yes I haven't mentioned colour,,I been quite taken with the chunky leafed one, I will be doing a few selective pollinations with the two males and 4 girls I picked ,,i think lol:smoking:,,whats your thoughts:smoking:



hows yours doing and wasnt you doing another germ test..

hairyman said:

So top 4 are k and bottom 2 W that tray might just become an orgy

Click to expand...

Sounds like a Plan...

Traits are a thing I Pin in my mind...and not 100%...BUT...
Some of the JEM...have leaf anomolies....I have it in me head it is an Afghan Thing...they will have leaf misshapes....
Also..some ball anomolies..they'll maybe have 1 set of balls that don't Drop on stalks...so you have 1 tight up bunch and the matching one...normal.

Miss matched balls..that is why I said check.

Usually...you wouldn't breed anomlies..but these are ones I have worked with for years...with no problem...every time I see it on someone elses grow it is almost always Afghan dom.
The nitrogen claw is JEM too.


You have a couple in the Widow selection that Look like the JEM Big White..... the ones where they have a quite fat head..but go down to spiders legs..very thin blades.
They will need to go to Trics..for a better guess..

hairyman said:

And my tent fav the robber crab

Click to expand...

That one is about the nearest to the first Black Dragon I ever saw....you have the horse shoe...and the leaf fingers are so fat they crowd it...and two Rabbits ears..very small end leaf fingers...stick up like two thumbs...
On mine...they stood upright...went through the leaf finger joints on the leaves above..and gave that an odd profile to the eye....

I Think yours are Trying to do that.. ...

Sometimes the Rabbits ear blade are not equal...you'll have 1 and a part formed one...sometimes they are almost webbed...
If you try to increase the number of leaves....by selective breeding you do sometimes see distinct webbing on the bigger finger leaves too..Deep Chunk trait.

The ones with horse shoe middle and sticky up rabbit ears were my Favourites.

hairyman said:

hows yours doing and wasnt you doing another germ test..

Click to expand...

I did..and our night temps tanked.......3 in the first 48 hours..plus a split one...
Then another split one..1 germed from there the other stopped.
So 50-50%..not the greatest...

Also..the germs I already had outside haven't really moved since the night temps tanked..so Probably stumpied..
But..we will see if the temps lift.
Hubby has accepted the need for some provisional cold frame protection..so we'll be looking at it...



Sun setting on the big mountain is my Cue for Spring....

Got the feeling these are going to sex at this height and stumpy...but hey ho..in the hands of the weather gods.. ..you take your chances...

Mossy said:

That one is about the nearest to the first Black Dragon I ever saw....you have the horse shoe...and the leaf fingers are so fat they crowd it...and two Rabbits ears..very small end leaf fingers...stick up like two thumbs...

Click to expand...

thats music to my ears,,:smoking:,,

Mossy said:

I did..and our night temps tanked.......3 in the first 48 hours..plus a split one...
Then another split one..1 germed from there the other stopped.
So 50-50%..not the greatest...

Click to expand...

well from my test it shows its not the seeds, i dont go out of my way when germing but they are in a reasonably well controlled environment

Mossy said:

Hubby has accepted the need for some provisional cold frame protection..so we'll be looking at it...

Click to expand...

i showed you the straw bales ones,,simple ,cheap,,,..

Mossy said:

Sun setting on the big mountain is my Cue for Spring....

Click to expand...

fire ..lovley

Mossy said:

View attachment 1169586

Got the feeling these are going to sex at this height and stumpy...but hey ho..in the hands of the weather gods.. ..you take your chances...

Click to expand...

We allways in the hands of the gods,,the last mixed pot i remember seeing early ,the one eaten by the dog,,turned out great,,


I still need to cull a couple to make it manageable and for a few in flower to finish

hairyman said:

i showed you the straw bales ones,,simple ,cheap,,,..

Click to expand...

They are not all glass...and now is not the time to be out looking..I have fleece..rudimentary...but hey ho......you do what you can with the Tools you are given....

Mossy said:

View attachment 1169953

They are not all glass...and now is not the time to be out looking..I have fleece..rudimentary...but hey ho......you do what you can with the Tools you are given....

Click to expand...

if it does the job ,,all that matters

hairyman said:

if it does the job ,,all that matters

Click to expand...

And if it keeps the bloody dogs out.... ..all my girls sit up on a table which makes them more vulnerable to wind/cold...if I use the patio walls to shelter them..the dogs eat them...

700 ltrs universal compo.. + 500 ltrs of worm castings...for me 2 X raised beds...


My xmas present got here...

Digging for Victory.....me raised beds...





1,000 ltr water butt cut in half....the chit in the butt is green algae that grows in the water...instinct says dried it should be nourishment..but we are scraping it out....

Garden is still fooked from the flood..but there is nothing we can do without the rotovator..so some kind of raised bed is the best we can do for the minute...

@hairyman ..temperature check...are you okay...?

Mossy said:

Garden is still fooked from the flood..but there is nothing we can do without the rotovator..so some kind of raised bed is the best we can do for the minute...

Click to expand...

will work perfect

Mossy said:

@hairyman ..temperature check...are you okay...?

Click to expand...

hi..yes ,,not been at my best,,but getting back to normal,

will get an update on soon,