Mephisto Genetics Yozhik's Grow #4 ... HubbaBubbaSmelloScope

It looks like someone set it on fire! Either that, or its a chemical burn, as in something spilled/applied to it. IMO no way is it a plant deficiency/ph problem

There is no possible way this is a feeding/watering spillage.
I'm vigilant on that, and the positioning of the leaves is nowhere near the watering zone.

Here's the structure of this girl on Day 38;

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Leaves at top.
Watering at defoliated bottom.
... and never the twain shall meet
 
UPDATE: Day 46 ... (for some, but not all)

LIGHTING:... The Sun

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POT/MEDIUM: ... 30 litre pots with New Mix 2.0 Cannabiogen soil

NUTRIENTS:

Advanced Nutrients Connoisseur Bloom A+B @ 2.0 ml/l
Advanced Nutrients Bud Candy @ 1.0 ml/l
Advanced Nutrients Big Bud @ 1.0 ml/l
Advanced Nutrients CalMag @ 1.0 ml/l
Advanced Nutrients Revive @ 1.0 ml/l​
TAP WATER pH: ... 7.2
POST-NUTRIENT WATER pH: ... 6.5
TAP WATER EC: ... 0.6
POST-NUTRIENT WATER EC: ... 2.0
FEEDING QUANTITY: ... 3.5 litres



COMMENTS:

It's a battle in the garden at the moment.
The toxicity problem amongst the HubbaBubbaSmelloScope girls is documented in the Infirmary, so I don't need to go into detail here. Enough to say they were flushed, and have now received a much lighter feed. as detailed above.

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As if that wasn't enough, the insects are also making their presence known more, every day.

As previously mentioned, NEEM has done nothing to stem their appetite.
I can feel them laughing at me - mocking me.

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The weather has also changed - temperatures are lower and the humidity risen, ergo, the threat of mold has increased, as has the conditions for caterpillars to unload their larvae.

Rain is forecast, along with cooler temps, later this week.
This will be the first real rain we've had in about 2 or 3 months.
BUT - it's forecast with summer thunderstorms which worries me, because they can be torrential and hail laden.
The girls are exposed.

Bringing these girls home over the finish line is going to be stressful.


HubbaBubbaSmelloScope Auto

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UPDATE: Day 47 ... (for some, but not all)


I've mentioned STEM BORING CATERPILLARS many times on this Journal already.
No matter how many times I have mentioned it, or prepared myself for the occurrence, NOTHING prepares you for it when it is discovered.

It's gut wrenching.

Just to recap, the white moths are the culprit.
They lay their eggs on the plant, which then as larvae feed on the plant and BORE HOLES inward, into the stem.
This is why you often can not detect them until its too late.
They are hidden from view and destroy the stem from the inside out.
It is their faecal matter that creates the visible bud rot.
However the true damage is the bore holes which is how they get into the inner structure of the plant.

CAVEAT:
this is NOT one of the HubbaBubbaSmelloScope girls, however, given I have mentioned the damage that can be done by a caterpillar invasion, and also given it is in the same garden in a parallel grow, I thought it relevant to still post in here, for the benefit and interest of those following this Mephisto thread.

ORLPsDa.jpg

Full image showing the slightest hint of bud rot with the brownish pistils, mid bud.

GoS8ZaQ.jpg

Full image showing MAIN bore hole, only visible once bud has been opened out.

mRFOOzC.jpg

MAIN bore hole centre pic.
Bud rot area above.
Secondary bore hole to the left of main bore hole.

QAgN7vk.jpg

The PRIMARY bore hole - the mother load in full techincolour.


x0zTVsd.jpg

Above image zoomed.


XSoSH7Y.jpg

Primary bore hole centre pic.
To the left can be seen the Secondary bore hole.

GoS8ZaQ.jpg

Good image showing the PRIMARY bore hole and the resultant bud rot in relation to the whole bud.


d6PSr4H.jpg

Again, PRIMARY bore hole and resultant bud rot.

XDwpOPo.jpg

Bud rot, with SECONDARY bore hole visible to the left.

7rFxZXb.jpg

SECONDARY bore hole, with what could in all probability be, a TERTIARY bore hole.

msY4hSi.jpg

SECONDARY bore hole upper pic, with the PRIMARY bore hole lower pic, with what is in all probability a TERTIARY bore hole just below the SECONDARY bore hole.



6ZXShBa.jpg

Good image of SECONDARY and PRIMARY bore holes in the stem, with a much smaller [probable] TERTIARY bore hole immediately to the right of the SECONDARY bore hole.


@Waira - I know this might not be the typical deficiency/toxicity questions normally found in the Infirmary section, but maybe stem boring caterpillars might be a useful case - with photos and commentary - to have in the database?
 
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UPDATE: Day 47 ... (for some, but not all)


I've mentioned STEM BORING CATERPILLARS many times on this Journal already.
No matter how many times I have mentioned it, or prepared myself for the occurrence, NOTHING prepares you for it when it is discovered.

It's gut wrenching.

Just to recap, the white moths are the culprit.
They lay their eggs on the plant, which then as larvae feed on the plant and BORE HOLES inward, into the stem.
This is why you often can not detect them until its too late.
They are hidden from view and destroy the stem from the inside out.
It is their faecal matter that creates the visible bud rot.
However the true damage is the bore holes which is how they get into the inner structure of the plant.

CAVEAT:
this is NOT one of the HubbaBubbaSmelloScope girls, however, given I have mentioned the damage that can be done by a caterpillar invasion, and also given it is in the same garden in a parallel grow, I thought it relevant to still post in here, for the benefit and interest of those following this Mephisto thread.

ORLPsDa.jpg

Full image showing the slightest hint of bud rot with the brownish pistils, mid bud.

GoS8ZaQ.jpg

Full image showing MAIN more hole once bud has been opened out.

mRFOOzC.jpg

MAIN bore hole centre pic.
Bud rot area above.
Secondary bore hole to the left of main bore hole.

QAgN7vk.jpg

The main bore hole - the mother load in full techincolour.


x0zTVsd.jpg

Above image zoomed.


XSoSH7Y.jpg

Primary bore hole centre pic.
To the left can be seen the Secondary bore hole.

GoS8ZaQ.jpg

Good image showing the PRIMARY bore hole and the resultant bud rot in relation to the whole bud.


d6PSr4H.jpg

Again, PRIMARY bore hole and resultant bud rot.

XDwpOPo.jpg

Bud rot, with SECONDARY bore hole visible to the left.

7rFxZXb.jpg

SECONDARY bore hole, with what could in all probability be, a TERTIARY bore hole.

msY4hSi.jpg

SECONDARY bore hole upper pic, with the PRIMARY bore hole lower pic, with what is in all probability a TERTIARY bore hole just below the SECONDARY bore hole.



6ZXShBa.jpg

Good image of SECONDARY and PRIMARY bore holes in the stem, with a much smaller [probable] TERTIARY bore hole immediately to the right of the SECONDARY bore hole.


@Waira - I know this might not be the typical deficiency/toxicity questions normally found in the Infirmary section, but maybe stem boring caterpillars might be a useful case - with photos and commentary - to have in the database?

I never knew caterpillars could be so savage! Glad the weather doesn't permit me much to grow outdoors where I live and Defo would be useful in database! Is it possible to see any Eggs etc with a loup?
 
I never knew caterpillars could be so savage! Glad the weather doesn't permit me much to grow outdoors where I live and Defo would be useful in database! Is it possible to see any Eggs etc with a loup?

Good question.
Didn't look this time.
Hopefully there won't be a next time - but chances are there will be.

The bud has already been destroyed due to the pandemic nature of bud rot.
But for there to even be bud rot means they have gone past the egg stage and are now faeces producing larvae.
However, as larvae is also when they are most vulnerable, because its when the likes of Snake Killer [Bacillus Thuringiensis] gets to work.
Bacillus Thuringiensis synthesises protein crystals called Delta endotoxins, which are eaten by larvae. They produce intestine paralysis, so the insect stops feeding, makes the epithelium break, allowing intestinal fluids flow to the vital organs and living tissues, causing its death.


And yeah - the stem boring caterpillars are definitely 'savage'!!
Can destroy a whole garden in the blink of an eye.
Hence DEFCON1 and zero tolerance.

To combat the bud rot I have Botryprot;

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Botryprot (EM) acts as a phytofortifier against negative effects of fungal rottennesses such as Botrytis and Sderotinia usually caused (in flower) by caterpillars or falls of temperature with an increase of the relative humidity.
 
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Good question.
Didn't look this time.
Hopefully there won't be a next time - but chances are there will be.

The bud has already been destroyed due to the pandemic nature of bud rot.
But for there to even be bud rot means they have gone past the egg stage and are now faeces producing larvae.
However, as larvae is also when they are most vulnerable, because its when the likes of Snake Killer [Bacillus Thuringiensis] gets to work.


And yeah - the stem boring caterpillars are definitely 'savage'!!
Can destroy a whole garden in the blink of an eye.
Hence DEFCON1 and zero tolerance.

To combat the bud rot I have Botryprot;

botryprot.png



Dude fuck that I cant even like the above post like seriously now its fuckin boring caterpillar larva?????????????????????????????? Note to self do not grow outside in Spain, jeeeeezus Christo my dude. I mean I don't even know what to say right now, other than if the weather is coming build some cages to put over your babies, or be prepared to move them in a quick fashion. In Texas I had golf ball sized hail basically make hash pulp out of my plants, the sucky part though is all the actual hash was in the MUD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Man I am sending so much grow Karma your way my friend
 
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