Sweet Seeds Yozhik's Grow #2

[Yozhik]

How come you switch (or at least transition) to bloom nutes so early? Consensus seems to be to feed grow nutes till they stop their stretch, which your a few weeks away from probably... I usually don't wait quite that long, maybe after about 5 weeks. You might not be letting them get to their full potential by switching so early, just saying

Haven't switched ... giving them a 50/50 blend


I read on here - or maybe another forum [I genuinely can't remember] - about a grower feeding Bloom nutes the whole way through.
Soooo ... I mulled it over.

My rationale is that at the preflower/stretch phase, you have a mixture of needs to serve.
Absolutely they need the Grow nute to feed the stretch and the development ... so I 100% agree with you.
I would be foolish to cut their Grow nutes completely.
There is zero intention of doing that.

At the same time, they're starting to develop structures for the latter flowering phase - so why not meet those requirements earlier ... without neglecting the Growth needs? Pre-load them and give them a head start, so to speak.

But hey ... what the f*** do I know?
This is only my second grow!!

As with anything I try, I monitor it very closely, and have no problem admitting I'm wrong, and reversing any path I travel.
They'll have 2 days to show me their reaction to this Sensi Grow + Sensi Bloom 50/50 blend.

The Bud Candy is really just Carboload ... they're essentially the same product - slight variation, but primarily the same.
Feeding them Carboload at this stage wouldn't be seen as 'switching' to a Bloom schedule, so I don't view using Bud Candy as anything different to using Carboload.

If it looks like they don't particularly like it, or show any adverse reaction like a slow down in their stretch, I'll flush and revert back to Grow nutes only.

Two days should be enough to gauge their reaction, but isn't too long to cause irreparable harm.
Well ... that's the newbies theory ... time will tell I guess.


So speaketh the unconscious incompetent in me.

 

[Hansbricks]

Yeah that's cool, you definitely won't see any adverse effects by doing that... just possibly not get quite the size you would have otherwise.

 

[Yozhik]

Yeah that's cool, you definitely won't see any adverse effects by doing that... just possibly not get quite the size you would have otherwise.

which would be an adverse effect

 

[MeefChief]

Glad I'm not too late to the party, you killed it on the last grow.

 

[Yozhik]

Glad I'm not too late to the party, you killed it on the last grow.

Hey @MeefChief - welcome.
Make yourself comfortable!

Beginner's luck on the first grow ... hoping to replicate it.

 

[Yozhik]

DAY 21:

Temperatures: ... Ambient Room 26 ℃ [+/- 2 ℃]
Humidity RH%: ... 47 [+/- 6%]
Lighting: ... 2 x 600w HPS
Schedule: ... 24/0

Feeding: ... NIL

No feeding today.

I'm not happy.
Something is happening in the tent that - at the moment - is not under control.

It's being discussed in the Infirmary section currently, but it looks like the soil is working against me and causing some serious pH fluctuation issues. [See. latest Infirmary discussion HERE ]

This REALLY pisses me off ... anyone who follows my journals knows I put a lot of time and focus on monitoring the pH of what I put IN to the soil, naively trusting the soil to not fuck it up. It didn't at any stage of the first grow, so this has completely blindsided me.

I'm teetering on the point of buying new soil, new pots, and transplanting every girl on Campus, to try and wrestle back control of the tent from the rogue soil.

Really not a happy camper.

But ... other than that ... the girls are - for the most part - looking excellent.

Campus​

Cream Caramel Auto x 1 and Cream Mandarine Auto x 3

Cream Mandarine XL Auto x 4

Green Poison Auto x 4

Sweet Trainwreck Auto x 4

 

[Yozhik]

DAY 22:

Temperatures: ... Ambient Room 25 ℃ [+/- 2 ℃]
Humidity RH%: ... 45 [+/- 5%]
Lighting: ... 2 x 600w HPS
Schedule: ... 24/0

Feeding: ... NIL

No feeding today.
Still some moisture in the soil.

Campus​

Dormitory 1
Cream Mandarine XL Auto + Sweet Trainwreck Auto​

Dormitory 2
Cream Caramel Auto + Cream Mandarine Auto + Green Poison Auto​

Cream Caramel Auto + Cream Mandarine Auto

Cream Caramel Auto x 1

Cream Mandarine Auto x 3

Cream Mandarine XL Auto

Cream Mandarine XL Auto x 4

Green Poison Auto

Green Poison Auto x 4

Sweet Trainwreck Auto

Sweet Trainwreck Auto x 4

 

[Hazy]

Lovely looking plants brother...sweet as.Edit...Maybe up the feed

How come you switch (or at least transition) to bloom nutes so early? Consensus seems to be to feed grow nutes till they stop their stretch, which your a few weeks away from probably... I usually don't wait quite that long, maybe after about 5 weeks. You might not be letting them get to their full potential by switching so early, just saying

Hans i do the same thing, i always switch to bloom nutes around 10 days after showing sex, so say they sex on day 15 i will introduce bloom nutes on day 25, a little nugget i found right at the beginning of my adventures in one of SB's grows. You see there is still enough N being fed to the plants to allow for the stretch to continue without any problems, the plants i grow average around 80-100cm, not bad for autos. You see i think the opposite from the convention, i think by delaying the introduction if bloom nutes, you may be in fact slowing down the bloom process, therefore increasing the finishing time. Using the early switch method, i have found i can bring all my plants in on the advertised time, if not earlier. Now here comes the disclaimer... I have only done this with DP genetics Just thought i'd throw it out there brother.

 

[Yozhik]

Hans i do the same thing, i always switch to bloom nutes around 10 days after showing sex, so say they sex on day 15 i will introduce bloom nutes on day 25, a little nugget i found right at the beginning of my adventures in one of SB's grows. You see there is still enough N being fed to the plants to allow for the stretch to continue without any problems, the plants i grow average around 80-100cm, not bad for autos. You see i think the opposite from the convention, i think by delaying the introduction if bloom nutes, you may be in fact slowing down the bloom process, therefore increasing the finishing time. Using the early switch method, i have found i can bring all my plants in on the advertised time, if not earlier. Now here comes the disclaimer... I have only done this with DP genetics Just thought i'd throw it out there brother.

Thinking back, it might have been your suggestion of this that triggered the thought in my mind @Hazy.
I've definitely read it on this forum somewhere.

Also non-forum friends-of-friends, who have green fingers, also thought it strange that I didn't introduce Bloom nutes the moment the girls showed their sex. They've been doing it as standard practice with their canna adventures for years.

Logic suggests to my novice mind that during the transition stage, they need a more balanced nutrient diet, to satisfy both needs.
But I am more than happy to be wrong on this - I'm definitely not married to the idea - just thought it kinda made some sense.

 

[Yozhik]

Lovely looking plants brother...sweet as.Edit...Maybe up the feed

I would ... but ... there are some tell tle signs of nute burn already - especially the Sweet Trainwreck Auto taller girls.
New growth coming through with yellow tips ... which I assume is nute burn.