Day 38: Finally getting pollen; APBE picking up steam
Day 38: Finally getting pollen; APBE picking up steam

The males are all dropping pollen now -- BW2 (massively intersex) is dropping a lot, BW3 (slightly intersex) and BW1 (not intersex) have just started. I did a branch on BW4 with each, and I'll collect a lot more from BW1 over the next week and save some single-use tubes in the freezer for later grows. Despite their intersex traits I think it's still worth sacrificing a small branch each to still make seeds with BW2 and BW3, because for all I know BW1 has some other bad trait(s) I won't want to get stuck with. Oh well.


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The full tent. And it is very full, though there is plenty of air circulation around them and a few feet of headroom.


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The Pakistan Ryder is still stretching -- it's 17" tall now, last post it was around 14". It's also getting clusters of stigmas on the tops. It's a few days behind the others and may run longer than the WWbx1s and BW, but the BW males have taken long enough to drop pollen that I'm going to have them all going for another five or so weeks regardless.

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Meanwhile, WWbx1#1 seems to be done stretching, but the branches are filling in.

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One of WWbx1#1's tops. :biggrin:

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Bobby's Widow #4 is also done stretching, but staying short and wide.

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The Sweet Trainwreck is also still stretching, now 18". It's about a week behind the others, and growing in a narrow vertical column between BW4 and WWbx1#2.

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WWbx1#2 is flowering hard too, maybe a day or two behind #1 but ahead of everything else.

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Meanwhile, in the other tent, the auto purple bastard eater is picking up steam. It's on day 9 from sprout, though I used a different germination process and that might change the timing a bit. Usually I soak seeds for about a day and a half, then plant them once a radicle emerges, and they take another 2 or 3 days for the germinated seeds to sprout. This time I planted a heavily scuffed seed in a peat puck and planted the whole peat puck in coco as soon as it sprouted, because apparently seeds with the ABC trait are hard to germ and particularly sensitive to being messed with post-germination. The seedling only had cotyledons for the first few days, but since there has been obvious growth with each passing day.

I haven't seen the ABC leaf trait described this way before, but it looks to me like all the leaves are shaped like cotyledons. (It also may have the Bigfoot trait, because I had a hard time getting pictures of it that weren't blurry.) The APBE is in a 1-liter airpot, I might bury the whole thing in a 1-gallon airpot to up-pot it later since it will have the whole 2x2x4' tent to itself. Depending how branchy it gets I might also try taking cuttings from it before it flowers.
 
Day 42: Done with pollination
Day 42: Done with pollination

I've collected a couple tubes of pollen from all three males now, and culled the two with intersex traits. I'm keeping #1 around a couple more days, so I can save several more tubes from that one, but I'm done pollinating branches on Bobby's Widow #4.


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They're all flowering now, and all but the Pakistan Ryder (left front) are done stretching. That one is now as tall as the WWbx1s and the Sweet Trainwreck, whereas the Bobby's widow #4 (front right) is much shorter -- about 13", compared to 20-22" for the others. I've moved the lights around to try to still effectively light BW4 without stressing the others, but it will probably yield less because of that. Hopefully still enough to get a reasonable impression and lots of mature seeds.

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The Pakistan Ryder is 22" tall now, and finally getting some pompoms. I wouldn't be surprised if it takes a week or so longer than the others to finish.

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WWbx1#1, the buds are looking good but there are some burnt looking fan leaves.

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Bobby's Widow #4, nearly as wide as it is tall.

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Sweet Trainwreck.

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WWbx1#2.

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Six single-use tubes of pollen+flour from Bobby's Widow #1, destined for my freezer.

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Bobby's Widow #1, a bit dried out and getting floppy. (I watered it right after taking this picture.)

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The Auto Purple Bastard Eater, with more leaf structure visible. It's still pretty small for day 12, but the leaves have developed a lot since Monday. They don't look like cotyledons anymore.
 
Day 45: Done stretching
Day 45: Done stretching

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The Pakistan Ryder and Sweet Trainwreck have finished stretching. I moved the ST to the back of the right tray, because now it's a little taller than WWbx1#2. When they are different heights it helps to arrange them so there's a gradual change, otherwise the tallest get stressed by lights for the shortest.

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One of WWbx1#2's tops. They are swelling and getting frosty. WWbx1 moves along quickly.


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I changed my mind and decided to pollinate a side branch on the Pakistan Ryder after all, since I'm still collecting fresh pollen from the Bobby's Widow #1 male and at this point I will probably be waiting 5 weeks for the PR to finish. Based on the breeder's description I figured PR would be a smaller 60-70ish day auto, but it seems like it will take a little longer. It's getting pretty big, for a 3/4 liter pot at least.

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The Auto Purple Bastard Eater, looking more like wonky basil than weed. It's small for day 16, roughly the size the Sweet Trainwreck was at that point. I want to eventually top it to encourage more side branches, but it needs a few more nodes first. That tent currently lacks a circulation fan (so the pollen can settle in cupcake cups), just an exhaust fan barely maintaining negative pressure, but once the BW male is out I will give the tent a proper cleaning and then add another fan.
 
Day 52 and 23: less nitrogen! no, wait, more nitrogen!
Day 52 and 23: less nitrogen! no, wait, more nitrogen!

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It's day 50-ish for most of the tent (52 for the WWbx1s, the others sprouted a few days later). Flowering is carrying on. I switched from veg (Foliage-Pro) to flower (Bloom) nutrients, and a couple of the plant's fan leaves got really yellow practically overnight. I've switched back to mostly veg nutrients and the other plants are greening up again, but the WWbx1s already had some rough looking fan leaves and dropped a couple. Those two have been a lot touchier with nutrients than the others this grow, being the first to show symptoms of excess nitrogren in late veg, then nitrogen deficiency in flower, and wanting a lot more calcium than everything else. I'm not too worried, though -- a couple other people have mentioned it being finicky about nutrients, and the colas look good. I'm giving the same nutrient mix to everything in the tent, so there's usually something that wants more or less of this and that.

I've been mixing two gallons of nutrient solution at a time, and when one of the gallon jugs is empty I fill that with 1/2 - 3/4 gallon of calmag water, slowly pour that through the pots, and measure the runoff. (And then give it to other potted plants.) It's usually been 400-500ish us/cm over the input, which means some buildup is getting washed out, but it's a far cry from the 1500-2000+ us/cm flushed out last grow when I didn't get around to it. Watering to runoff every 5 or 6 days seems often enough without being a lot of extra hassle.

I rearranged them so that the tallest plants are in the back -- the Pakistan Ryder and Sweet Trainwreck are a few inches taller than the WWbx1s now -- and the shorter Bobby's Widow is still front-right.

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WWbx1#1. Some of the fan leaves that got spotty like calcium deficiency are looking worse for wear now. I switched to adding a little calmag instead of epsom salts (the base nutrients already contain some calcium and magnesium), but the older growth isn't going to recover. (The bottle in the tray is there to help keep the top-heavy plant from tipping.)

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The Pakistan Ryder is well into flower now, looking like WWbx1#1 did about two weeks ago. If this one ends up finishing quite a bit after the others I can move it to the other tent with the APBE, I guess. Some of the top fan leaves are looking a bit stressed because it kept stretching and was briefly too close to the lights.

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Bobby's Widow #4, shorter than the others and quietly doing its thing.

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WWbx1#2 is filling out like #1. It too has some yellowing/spotted fan leaves, though not quite as bad as #1. It has floppy OG branches, and after taking that picture I added wires so the side branches are held up better, supported by the stronger branches.

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One of WWbx1#2's tops.

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The Sweet Trainwreck is filling out too, looking like it will have some long colas.

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Sweet Trainwreck top, with flash highlighting the growth all the way down.

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Meanwhile, the Auto Purple Bastard Eater is on day 23 from sprout. I'm planning on topping it in the next few days, once there's a clear shot at cutting above the fourth node. The nubs on the branches near the stem have turned into independent branches now, and hopefully topping will make them really take off.

There are a lot of roots underneath the airpot, in the bottom of the bucket. I probably missed my chance to stick the whole airpot in a larger airpot, but I'm fine with just bottom-feeding it. I moved it to a wider bucket instead. (I forgot to add a wick when I set up the airpot, that may have given it a quicker start.)

I'm about to mix more nutrient water for the APBE, so far it's been getting by on distilled water with about 150 us/cm of pro-tekt and only 250 us/cm of foliage-pro, which is nothing. I'm going to increase the f-p, but still staying quite low.
 
Day 59: approaching the end
Day 59: approaching the end

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The full tent. Pretty crowded, a few lower branches aren't getting much light depending on how the plants are rotated.

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The Pakistan Ryder will probably spend an extra week or two in the other tent when I harvest the rest. The buds are starting to swell, but it's got a ways to go.

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WWbx1#1 (with flash). It's really top heavy now and hard to take pictures of when the coco is dry. (As I took these pictures I watered each individually to runoff.)

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One of WWbx1#1's tops, with flash.

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Bobby's Widow (#4), looks like it's finishing up but I'll give it extra time so the seeds can mature.

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One of BW4's tops.

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WWbx1#2 (with flash). This one has weaker stems than #1, and one of the pollinated side branches almost broke off under its own weight. I just added extra support to it. Most of the side branches have a tie anchoring them to the two main stems (it split where I topped it) for extra support, otherwise the branches would be splayed out wider.

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One of WWbx1#2's tops, with flash.

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Sweet Trainwreck. This one is in the corner and the bottom half of the plant isn't getting much light. It was also a bit dried out when I took this picture, but they will perk up again soon.

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One of ST's tops, with flash. This one will probably be harvested later, with the Pakistan Ryder. It's moving along quicker but had a late start.
 
Day 30: The APBE is getting branchy; started JEMs
Day 30: The APBE is getting branchy; started JEMs

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Meanwhile, in my other tent, the Auto Purple Bastard Eater had a rough week but has mostly recovered. About five days ago I topped it, mixed new nutrients at a slightly higher EC, and moved it to a larger bucket for bottom-feeding. Overnight it started looking sad and deflated. I wondered if it was the topping or the new nutrient mix (600 us/cm rather than 400, which is still super low), but I realized it was probably the bucket: it wasn't getting much airflow, so the airpot wasn't drying out, the roots weren't drinking as much water, etc. I moved it to a wide shallow "shoebox" storage bin and it looked better by the following morning.

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I tried to top it (above the fourth node), but the ABC branches start out really tightly clustered together and I may have FIM'd it instead. It's getting a lot of side branch growth now, in any case.

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It hasn't shown sex yet, but the branching structure has started becoming increasingly asymmetrical. Usually that's a sign taht the plant is transitioning into flowering, but I've never grown an ABC plant before and some of those details may be different?

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I started a couple more JEMs, because they're likely to finish around the same time as the APBE and there should be space. (I also started a couple more chili peppers.) Last grow I started 4 JEMs and 2 of 4 didn't make it, then both were male. I saved a bunch of pollen, so while that's potentially still viable I started 4 more, using peat pucks this time. 2 sprouted a few days ago and are doing fine. 1 more got turned upside down somehow and was struggling to raise its unshed shell out of the peat, so I carefully dug that out and planted it in coco this morning. Hopefully it doesn't run out of gas before it can shed the shell. No signs of life from the fourth yet.
 
Day 66: Most are ready to harvest, but waiting a few more days
Day 66: Most are ready to harvest, but waiting a few more days

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The full tent. 3/5 are ready to harvest, but I'm going to wait a few more days so that the Bobby's Widow seeds have 5 weeks to mature from the last pollination date.

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WWbx1#1, ready to harvest. It's been ready for a few days, actually. It has a somewhat low-key lemon/funk smell, like the Walter Whites I grew before.

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Close up of one of the WWbx1#1 tops.

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The Pakistan Ryder has filled out a lot since a week ago, and now it has a wood/incense smell. I'm planning on moving it to the other tent with the APBE when I harvest, it will likely need a few extra weeks.

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Close up of one of the Pakistan Ryder tops.

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Bobby's Widow #4, it's also been ready to harvest for a couple days (as of day 61).

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One of BW4's tops.

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WWbxa#2, also ready to harvest.

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Sweet Trainwreck, very little growth in the bottom half but the top half has filled out a lot. This one isn't quite ready to harvest yet, but it started later than the others, and will probably be ready in a week or so.

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One of ST's tops.
 
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Day 37: Meanwhile, the APBE is struggling
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The APBE has had a rough week, at times it's seemed under- or over-watered and has generally looked sad. I'm not 100% sure, but it seems like its initial root growth shot straight down to the tray but didn't branch much laterally. The roots spread in the tray, but all branching off one main root, and that whole cluster of roots seemed fragile. Once those started to air-prune / got damaged it couldn't take in much water, I guess? But now when I pick it up I see a bunch of healthy fuzzy white roots growing out of the bottom of the coco in the airpot in several places, so the roots have spread better throughout the whole pot, and hopefully it will recover soon. It's such a different looking plant that I'm not confident in interpreting the other details, though the yellowing cotyledons make me think it's probably ready for slightly more nutrients. Usually when I grow in airpots like this I add a wick, but I forgot it this time. That probably would have helped.

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The JEMs are doing okay, the front two are on day 10 and about to start on their third node, the other is a few days behind.
 
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Day 39: APBE recovering, showing sex, and lots of new root growth
Day 39: APBE recovering, showing sex, and lots of new root growth

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The APBE seems to be recovering pretty quickly now. The plant still looks a little droopy because the stem and branches near where I topped are leaning, but the lower branches are standing up more and there's new growth all over. It also has some stigmas visible now, showing sex on day 38.

My ghost pepper seedling behind it is also looking better, though still growing quite slowly. I'm probably going to transplant it to coco eventually, since it will stay indoors until next spring, but this could be a decent low-maintenance life support option for overwintering cuttings. It's in a 1-liter kratky-style jar with a black sock over it. I've topped up the nutrient solution a little but never more than halfway.

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Focused on a couple side branches.

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The slightly green, slightly brown main taproot was the only root growth reaching the water at the bottom, but now there are lots of other roots as well. I think it would have helped a lot to run wicking rope through the middle of the coco mass and out the bottom airpot base disc, but I forgot to add one this time. The wick acts like extra large roots and seems to help the plant transition to bottom-feeding before it has its own roots growing through the small air gap to the water.
 
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Day 72: Final pre-harvest pictures
Day 72: Final pre-harvest pictures

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Full tent. I am going to harvest everything in the next day or so, except for the Pakistan Ryder (left/back), which needs a few more weeks and will move to my other tent with the APBE and JEMs.

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WWbx1#1 :biggrin:

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Close up of one of WWbx1#1's tops.

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Pakistan Ryder. Definitely needs a few more weeks.

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PR's tops. Lots of frost, but still swelling and maturing.

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Bobby's Widow (#4). Short, but several nice buds on it, and hopefully a bunch of seeds in the flagged branches.

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One of BW4's tops.

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WWbx1#2 :biggrin:

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Close up of one of WWbx1#2's many tops.

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Sweet Trainwreck. Almost all the growth is in the top half because it was between the others and then in the corner.

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One of ST's colas.
 
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