Weeellll, 1/11, put an Autowreck and Muchacha in h20/h202.
1/12 put them in coffee filters
1/15 no response so I cracked them
1/17 1 little nubby on autowreck nothing from Muchacha so I put them in some root riots along with a bit of VAM and Ful Power. Put a napkin over them to let in a little light. Tomorrow may remove it and see if maybe light is what they are looking for.
Think it's time to make a germination station out of this cooler I don't use so I can control the environment better.