Indoor Testing the eazyplug pyramid mini.

[The Iconoclast]

so, @The Iconoclast, to sum things I understood a little up here, and get my brain set and done.
You didn't bother about PH? They say to go with PH 5.8.
I just soaked the plugs and put some sprouts in them.

When I decide they are good to go, I plug them in the next bigger part, whatever one choses (will be block and big pyramid) and then no feed needed about 3 weeks? Did I read this right? No feed?
What feed did you start with, when you started? You observed a high rise in ppm, without harm, but what do you now see as good to go? 350-500 ppm or go stronger like you did.
Yes I know I'm going the easy way to ask here, but I think not just me benefits from a small proper writeup of best practice you found up to date.
Perhaps I'm just flattened by the simplicity, but I don't want to miss something.
Thanks!

Let me clarify. When soaking the plugs every one so far was just soaked with 7pH tap water, and I just never thought about it again. However when I soaked my big pyramid yesterday, I took the water down to pH 6 and I'd recommend that. It doesn't matter with the mini pyramids because of the copious nutrient solution that I pour over them to (in my mind) flush out any salts that might build up. So for the small plugs, definitely for the tiny eazyplugs I have found pH water is unnecessary, but there's no harm in it. However a 1000—1200 ppm usually mixes at the right pH.

I don't know how long they can go without feed from the start, I just start giving them some 500ppm nute at two weeks and up it pretty fast to 1000—1200. I'm still learning with this. When I do start giving them nutes though I flow plenty through the plug so if I have a vibe about a yellow tip or something, then the mini is easy to flush. The first plant, the purple haze I fussed over her giving her nutes every couple of hours, but I'm more relaxed about it now. Today again the Amnesia was almost completely dry on the outside and hardly weighed anything but it looked fine, so at this stage it doesn't matter what you do, it appears to me. Therefore this thread, to build up a community knowledge base. Later on when I start growing pairs of beans, then I will do these sorts of tests, but at the moment, nothing seems to be critical. Just keep a good runoff.

Yup, using them this way, makes everything very simple, do note that the small plugs fit nicely in the mini pyramid, but the plug is too small for the cube, and needs extra plug which I talk about earlier. It's a bit of a gotcha.

 

[Drownomatic]

I'm going to give these a try,

I ordered 6 cones, 16 cubes, and the small tray of mini cubes.

Initially it seems expensive, but when you compare it to 5 gallons of organic soil, its not much different.

I was out of jiffy pots anyway.

 

[The Iconoclast]

@Drownomatic, I have to say that I'm not too sure about the 3" cube, the small eazyplugs are excellent and necessary as well for the small cone/pyramid, which has a hold for them. Do you intend to put a 3" cube onto the mini pyramid, or if you're replacing 5 gallons then I'm guessing you're talking about the large pyramid?

 

[Drownomatic]

I might try the 3" cube on a small container of soil, and on the pyramid side by side.

 

[The Iconoclast]

I might try the 3" cube on a small container of soil, and on the pyramid side by side.

I recently tried using the 3" cube in my hydro, I grew it in the cube for a week until I could see a couple of root tips on every side and there'll be more at the bottom. I would suggest waiting till at least a week before planting in soil. Also please report back your results. The idea for me was to force it to produce lots of points rather than just dive straight down. It was exceedingly vigorous, with a much more substantial trunk. This was when I discovered the plug was a big loose. It's fine for burying but I used that experience to make it a better fit for the large pyramid. I still had to stuff a bit of plug around the sizes to make it fit better.


Joy! My LST clips arrived early. I bought three different types because it's very hard to see the size or what is going on by the photos on eBay. Glad I did because the green fixed ones are only for the very thinnest branches, and the white two piece adjustable looked too large but in fact are much smaller than I thought and they are perfect.

The Amnesia was really begging to be bent over the stems are the most supple that I've encountered so far especially at this age, so I'm very please they came today, I immediately completely flattened the canopy to a level field. It's a pot with no pot, and a scrog with no net.

Here's some before and after shots.

Before After

 

[The Iconoclast]

The Jack47XL is a big strong plant, there's nice internode spacing but at the same time it's a much more rigid stem than the Amnesia, she is looking like she could do with a bit more room to get some of the secondary branches out into the open and these clips have made it possible to do what normally would be impossible for me. I'd just wait till it grew more and try to deal with it then.

Before After

 

[Drownomatic]

I'm not a solo cup competitor, but this might be an ideal medium if someone carved one down to fit.

 

[olbobcat]

I find this very exciting and promising. I am going to let you guys do all the work on this one. I have been doing too much experimenting as of late. It has put a damper on some of my yields. I have to get back to doing things my way for a while.

 

[The Iconoclast]

I have been doing too much experimenting as of late. It has put a damper on some of my yields.

That is so true, you know there's so many comparison tests I want to do but it's like, fuck it's going to take years and I also want to grow different varieties. And it just dawned on me today that — and I'm not saying you or anyone should do this, it's just what suits me — I can do all the tests I wanted to now in the course of just normally growing. Not only that but if you get freebies and you've not grown them before then you tend to shy away from using them, even though they might be brilliant, but you don't want to tie up a grow to find out. But now I can just use up all my freebies because it doesn't really take up much space. This is why I started with the purple haze, it was a seedsman freebie, I grew a single stem in a big pot with another plant that took over, it was ok looks pretty but nothing special, so it wasn't a valued seed, but it grew to a much better quality in the mini pyramid, with better terpenes.This is the kind of hard work that I'm happy to do. I'm just about done with pumps and reservoirs and plumbing.

The pyramid tends to bring out the best in the genetics, that's what I've noticed so far, albeit with a sample size of one. But even this Jedi Kush, here it is at one day old in the Pyramid, and although my previous Jedi in the big tub looks perfect, it doesn't look as good as the one in the pyramid which is covered in downy hairs, so many that I thought the tips were damaged because they were white. I don't know if this means anything, or not, but I know the jedi bud well so I'm super excited to be able to replace my hydro bulk.

Day 0 — day 1 hydro
Day 0 — day 1 pyramid



That SWC on the right with it's separate reservoir will, if all goes well, be replaced by that pyramid next to it

Can't wait for that Brooklyn Sunrise to be finished so I can have a completely tabletop set up. Here's a quick rearranged group shot of all the girls together.

 

[Drownomatic]

The other thing, and this is important to me as a basement grower, or anyone doing vertical farming: Its very low total height to soil.