Indoor Starting to grow and planning to do it perpetually. BlackBerry Kush and Jack Herer ATM!

Ok man im here... just looking back.... i can tell ya that soil your plants are in is all fucked up ... especially trying to use tangs schedule.

Where do you live. UK or US ?

Tang uses plagron light mix its a uk thing. I use pro mix hp its a US deal. Pretty muvh the same thing. They are both non fertilized peat moss. And they are stable ph... thats key to using AN. That soil you have is probablly all over the place and you have no idea whats in it and no idea what your plants are getting already on top of dumping nutes in on top of it.

Heres the few keys to growing with tangs schedule.

1 plagron light mix or pro mix hp

2 water is bubbled at least or RO... the bubbled tap will do just fine and the sensi will auto adjust it to the sweet spot. I suggest buying the grow to use in veg and saving the bloom for bloom. Not detrimental just a suggestion.

3 dont over feed/water

4 Keep temps below 78

5 keep lights an appropriate distance.

You do those 5 things MAINLY 1 and 2 which step 1 has you screwed here.... and youll be growing 1000 times better
 
Ok man im here... just looking back.... i can tell ya that soil your plants are in is all fucked up ... especially trying to use tangs schedule.

Where do you live. UK or US ?

Tang uses plagron light mix its a uk thing. I use pro mix hp its a US deal. Pretty muvh the same thing. They are both non fertilized peat moss. And they are stable ph... thats key to using AN. That soil you have is probablly all over the place and you have no idea whats in it and no idea what your plants are getting already on top of dumping nutes in on top of it.

Heres the few keys to growing with tangs schedule.

1 plagron light mix or pro mix hp

2 water is bubbled at least or RO... the bubbled tap will do just fine and the sensi will auto adjust it to the sweet spot. I suggest buying the grow to use in veg and saving the bloom for bloom. Not detrimental just a suggestion.

3 dont over feed/water

4 Keep temps below 78

5 keep lights an appropriate distance.

You do those 5 things MAINLY 1 and 2 which step 1 has you screwed here.... and youll be growing 1000 times better
Bro, thanks for stopping by.

I live in South America, can't really get those premade soil. I already asked for one that seems to be like Plagron and will likely try it out, unless you recommend otherwise.
Should i investigate how to do my own? Is it hard to make something close to plagron light mix?

My tap water is bubbled for 24 hs before mixing and feeding.

I was watering once every 2 days. From day 12 to 19 it was 150ml each. I started adding 50ml each watering now till they stop growing.

You think using sensi bloom made my plants stay short or its just the soil?

For the light i'm using the 30sec hand rule.

Will post temps/humidity/ph on water once the things arrive.

What do you recommend i do from now on with this grow? Cut out nutes? How can i get the most out of this shitty soil, if its possible?
Thanks for the tips. Kinda sad but oh well, i'm learning.
 
As far as fixing whats going on now. :shrug:
I would aquire the correct supplies. Get a gameplan. And start over.....

Note : most would not do this only my personal opinion.
 
Im not a build your own soil guy. The plagrom and promix work because they really are not soils. They are a ph stable soiless medium... for the most part the peat moss is something that holds the roots, and moisture. The AN does the rest
 
As far as fixing whats going on now. :shrug:
I would aquire the correct supplies. Get a gameplan. And start over.....

Note : most would not do this only my personal opinion.

Im not a build your own soil guy. The plagrom and promix work because they really are not soils. They are a ph stable soiless medium... for the most part the peat moss is something that holds the roots, and moisture. The AN does the rest

So i ultimately fucked my plants up because of feeding AN nutes to this soil? if i fed them plain water they would look more healthy?

I think i will have to go that route just because i haven't found a mix like plagron or bio mix here.

I FUCKED UPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP

Not continuing them is not an option at this point ill just keep going and see what it turns to be. Think it will hurt taste/smoke aside of yield?

Also, did sensi bloom had anything to do with the short girls?

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And the soil i'm using has this detailed: Organic amendment, black earth, bone meal, peat, perlite, vermiculite and ¿river hangover? i don't know if it's the proper translation on this last one.

Found one that has peat moss (black and white) vermiculite and perlite. ph at 6.2 and ec at 0.8, does that sound good? its a light mix. I already have a few bags of perlite to add to whatever i buy. This light mix seems to be descent enough to try out.
 
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I can see 2 strange plants, is that right? My gut feeling is mutated plants, the two in the middle. Is anything wrong with the other 4?
Nute dose should be ok.

Are you growing in soil?
Get a pH meter and keep pH 5.8-6.
 
I can see 2 strange plants, is that right? My gut feeling is mutated plants, the two in the middle. Is anything wrong with the other 4?
Nute dose should be ok.

Are you growing in soil?
Get a pH meter and keep pH 5.8-6.

Yes, 2 of them seems to be strange, 1 for sure seems like a mutant, the other one a bit more healthy. Yes, the other 4 look pretty good, thing is it seems my soil is not compatible with AN nutes or/and the ph on my water is fucked up. The leafs looks "clawy", a few leafs have some yellow spots on them but most of them have a really nice green. AND they look pretty tiny, think i should've used sensi grow instead of bloom this early.

Soil mix: Organic amendment, black earth, bone meal, peat, perlite, vermiculite and ¿river hangover? i don't know if it's the proper translation on this last one.

pH meter should be arriving this week alongside a few more items.

water is bubbled with air stone for 24hs before mixing.

I wanna get the most out of this grow and start over with a descent enough light mix, so any tips to achieve it will be taken in consideration.
 
Totally not saying your fucked all together just saying im not the guy to help when it comes to soils and the proper amendments for a water only system. Im a bottle nite and soiless grower amd the two world are much different.

@Waira and @Eyes on Fire can provide a little more insight on soils and the things that go along with them.

If you want to run a feed like tang or myself it doesnt need to be in amended soil
 
Totally not saying your fucked all together just saying im not the guy to help when it comes to soils and the proper amendments for a water only system. Im a bottle nite and soiless grower amd the two world are much different.

@Waira and @Eyes on Fire can provide a little more insight on soils and the things that go along with them.

If you want to run a feed like tang or myself it doesnt need to be in amended soil

Yeah the plan is to finish this and when they're on day 40 ill start over the sour stompers i've left with a light mix that has peat moss (black and white) vermiculite and perlite. seems to have no fertilizers, still i asked if they have any incorporated or not.

thanks man, truly appreciate the feedback so far.
 
@A-Train has tagged the right experts. Let's listen to what they say.
I used Sensi in soil before and it worked well i my hands.

Don't throw mutants away.
I have this original photoperiode Gorilla Glue [HASHTAG]#4[/HASHTAG] growing a normal stem and mutated flat stem.

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I removed the flat stem and put it to flower. Never seen frost like this before...

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