Rebel's Mega Crop / Greenleaf Nutrients CannaZone Test Thread

hi all, nice postings in this threat. We are monitoring closely peoples real world results with AF.

In the future, we are probably going to bump up the MAGNESIUM AMINO ACID CHELATES in Mega Crop, seems like a few people are getting "CalMag" issues which seems to just be Mag issues. This may be because a lot of people are using heavy Coco medium, or strains are heavy Mag feeders, or for whatever reason we think increasing Mag will be a good decision.

Also, we are closely monitoring the "Nitrogen" level feedback, if some people are saying the N is too high? MC can use used for veg and flowering/budding, however it seems like Auto's spend a higher % of their life in flower/budding phase which may mean the N is possible too high?

As a solution if you have this problem, you can lower the MC dosage (to keep the N down), and supplement with a PK/K boost like Bud Explosion or Sweet Candy (both of those products have 0 Nitrogen and will boost K or PK). We can possibly up the PK and lower the N in Mega Crop for the future, we are keeping an eye on this if its needed. If we did do this, then the N would be lower, and it would be more of a dedicated bloom formula (which I think a lot of people around here would like)! In this case then we would ask people using it in veg phase to supplement with a separate product to boost Nitrogen.

We really want MEGA CROP to be a 1 part Cannabis formula, but some people may find they are getting better result with an extra PK/K booster for Auto's. So as mentioned we can adjust formula in the future to help with this as needed. Other nutrient companies like to split up products into 5-10 different products because they can easily pass the illusion of charging you a higher overall cost because you are under the impression that you are getting 5-10 different things. We do not want to do this, actually logistically speaking and for our shipping/packaging operation, its much much easier to just have as few products as possible to simplify sending orders :) Once you have 5 different products with 5 different sizes each, that brings your different SKU products to 25, which makes shipping/order fulfillment much more complicated. So obviously there is a price increase needed to account for having more products because of the more complicated inventory handling. Eventually we would like to make things as simple as possible, maybe having MEGA CROP and 1-2 other products max which are all optional.
With separate products, a sugar/carbohydrate product will always have to be separate dedicated formula, because of the fermentation that can happen and that carbohydrate products are not suited to every growing type.

Great to see a company that actually cares about results and listens to feedback.

Also it would be really useful if you could include a measuring spoon.
Even just a 1 gram one like what comes with a tub of protein or creatine.
Like this scoop.
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Then everyone would be working with the same measurements
 
Great to see a company that actually cares about results and listens to feedback.

Also it would be really useful if you could include a measuring spoon.
Even just a 1 gram one like what comes with a tub of protein or creatine.
Like this scoop.
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Then everyone would be working with the same measurements
Many growers will use different size dosing. So, 1 gram measurement would work for people who mix small batches like 1-3 Gallons, but people who mix larger batches like 10-40 Gallons would need a bigger size, and some 100G bigger size. So having a bunch of small scoops or spoons might be a waste of plastic and end up getting thrown out and wasted so its probably

Right now you can use 1 US teaspoon = 6 grams , also we are setting up EC/meter feeding chart too so you can use those.
 
hi all, nice postings in this threat. We are monitoring closely peoples real world results with AF.

In the future, we are probably going to bump up the MAGNESIUM AMINO ACID CHELATES in Mega Crop, seems like a few people are getting "CalMag" issues which seems to just be Mag issues. This may be because a lot of people are using heavy Coco medium, or strains are heavy Mag feeders, or for whatever reason we think increasing Mag will be a good decision.

Also, we are closely monitoring the "Nitrogen" level feedback, if some people are saying the N is too high? MC can use used for veg and flowering/budding, however it seems like Auto's spend a higher % of their life in flower/budding phase which may mean the N is possible too high?

As a solution if you have this problem, you can lower the MC dosage (to keep the N down), and supplement with a PK/K boost like Bud Explosion or Sweet Candy (both of those products have 0 Nitrogen and will boost K or PK). We can possibly up the PK and lower the N in Mega Crop for the future, we are keeping an eye on this if its needed. If we did do this, then the N would be lower, and it would be more of a dedicated bloom formula (which I think a lot of people around here would like)! In this case then we would ask people using it in veg phase to supplement with a separate product to boost Nitrogen.

We really want MEGA CROP to be a 1 part Cannabis formula, but some people may find they are getting better result with an extra PK/K booster for Auto's. So as mentioned we can adjust formula in the future to help with this as needed. Other nutrient companies like to split up products into 5-10 different products because they can easily pass the illusion of charging you a higher overall cost because you are under the impression that you are getting 5-10 different things. We do not want to do this, actually logistically speaking and for our shipping/packaging operation, its much much easier to just have as few products as possible to simplify sending orders :) Once you have 5 different products with 5 different sizes each, that brings your different SKU products to 25, which makes shipping/order fulfillment much more complicated. So obviously there is a price increase needed to account for having more products because of the more complicated inventory handling. Eventually we would like to make things as simple as possible, maybe having MEGA CROP and 1-2 other products max which are all optional.
With separate products, a sugar/carbohydrate product will always have to be separate dedicated formula, because of the fermentation that can happen and that carbohydrate products are not suited to every growing type.
If you cut the N (or if we reduce current dosage), couldn't the B-ALIVE be used to provide more N and boosters, such as during the vegetative growth period.?
 
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hi all, nice postings in this threat. We are monitoring closely peoples real world results with AF.

In the future, we are probably going to bump up the MAGNESIUM AMINO ACID CHELATES in Mega Crop, seems like a few people are getting "CalMag" issues which seems to just be Mag issues. This may be because a lot of people are using heavy Coco medium, or strains are heavy Mag feeders, or for whatever reason we think increasing Mag will be a good decision.

Also, we are closely monitoring the "Nitrogen" level feedback, if some people are saying the N is too high? MC can use used for veg and flowering/budding, however it seems like Auto's spend a higher % of their life in flower/budding phase which may mean the N is possible too high?

As a solution if you have this problem, you can lower the MC dosage (to keep the N down), and supplement with a PK/K boost like Bud Explosion or Sweet Candy (both of those products have 0 Nitrogen and will boost K or PK). We can possibly up the PK and lower the N in Mega Crop for the future, we are keeping an eye on this if its needed. If we did do this, then the N would be lower, and it would be more of a dedicated bloom formula (which I think a lot of people around here would like)! In this case then we would ask people using it in veg phase to supplement with a separate product to boost Nitrogen.

We really want MEGA CROP to be a 1 part Cannabis formula, but some people may find they are getting better result with an extra PK/K booster for Auto's. So as mentioned we can adjust formula in the future to help with this as needed. Other nutrient companies like to split up products into 5-10 different products because they can easily pass the illusion of charging you a higher overall cost because you are under the impression that you are getting 5-10 different things. We do not want to do this, actually logistically speaking and for our shipping/packaging operation, its much much easier to just have as few products as possible to simplify sending orders :) Once you have 5 different products with 5 different sizes each, that brings your different SKU products to 25, which makes shipping/order fulfillment much more complicated. So obviously there is a price increase needed to account for having more products because of the more complicated inventory handling. Eventually we would like to make things as simple as possible, maybe having MEGA CROP and 1-2 other products max which are all optional.
With separate products, a sugar/carbohydrate product will always have to be separate dedicated formula, because of the fermentation that can happen and that carbohydrate products are not suited to every growing type.

Thank you for posting all this in my thread! If I may share some things back with you... In the last few years running LEDs... And having run HID (hps) and T5HOs for the years before LEDs came into our lives... I NEVER had Cal or Mag issues. The only thing that changed was the LIGHTING...

I'm no scientist @Waira (as he is!) And I'm no expert either. I just notice things... Because after 7 years with the same room and just one or two things changing here and there you can pretty much pick your suspects. I've always noticed that around week 4-5 in autos that the rust spots just come on like wild fire. So I started 4ml per gallon of Cal mag from day one and that solved the problem. But I never had to use it before!

I often wonder why nute companies haven't picked this up by now... Like formulate a nute line FOR LEDs. Because I'm not the only one who has or had that problem.

That's good to know about the Sugar Candy... As I am using it on both autos and photos...

Thanks again for all the info! Absolutely love the MC and SC!!

My autos are getting super frosty and resinous and they are 33 days old. :d5:
 
hi all, nice postings in this threat. We are monitoring closely peoples real world results with AF.

In the future, we are probably going to bump up the MAGNESIUM AMINO ACID CHELATES in Mega Crop, seems like a few people are getting "CalMag" issues which seems to just be Mag issues. This may be because a lot of people are using heavy Coco medium, or strains are heavy Mag feeders, or for whatever reason we think increasing Mag will be a good decision.

Also, we are closely monitoring the "Nitrogen" level feedback, if some people are saying the N is too high? MC can use used for veg and flowering/budding, however it seems like Auto's spend a higher % of their life in flower/budding phase which may mean the N is possible too high?

As a solution if you have this problem, you can lower the MC dosage (to keep the N down), and supplement with a PK/K boost like Bud Explosion or Sweet Candy (both of those products have 0 Nitrogen and will boost K or PK). We can possibly up the PK and lower the N in Mega Crop for the future, we are keeping an eye on this if its needed. If we did do this, then the N would be lower, and it would be more of a dedicated bloom formula (which I think a lot of people around here would like)! In this case then we would ask people using it in veg phase to supplement with a separate product to boost Nitrogen.

We really want MEGA CROP to be a 1 part Cannabis formula, but some people may find they are getting better result with an extra PK/K booster for Auto's. So as mentioned we can adjust formula in the future to help with this as needed. Other nutrient companies like to split up products into 5-10 different products because they can easily pass the illusion of charging you a higher overall cost because you are under the impression that you are getting 5-10 different things. We do not want to do this, actually logistically speaking and for our shipping/packaging operation, its much much easier to just have as few products as possible to simplify sending orders :) Once you have 5 different products with 5 different sizes each, that brings your different SKU products to 25, which makes shipping/order fulfillment much more complicated. So obviously there is a price increase needed to account for having more products because of the more complicated inventory handling. Eventually we would like to make things as simple as possible, maybe having MEGA CROP and 1-2 other products max which are all optional.
With separate products, a sugar/carbohydrate product will always have to be separate dedicated formula, because of the fermentation that can happen and that carbohydrate products are not suited to every growing type.

My 2 cents is this. If adding or decreasing something only mean that we gotta add or decrease something else, I'd rather it stay unchanged.

There are many ongoing grows using MC and additives. I have not seen any dissatisfaction whatsoever. I don't think many will appreciate spending so much time getting the feeds dialed in, just to see the formula changed. Unless there is a major upgrade though.




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:crying: oh gawd, that's too funny!-- you need this and Sister "Hairy Mary" Discipline greeting you next to the "remember this, don't forget that" neon sign in the grow room! :rofl: ...lest thy ass be scorch-ed by ye fiercesome laser brow- :hothot: :evil1: :haha:

:smoker1: hmmm, I dunno about not enough for the photo's Reb,.. 3 gal is still tiny-- to them! You're in a tougher balancing act that most, to feed well but not too much and cause them to root cramp up too soon, too much,... As a matter of science and trials, I'd seriously look into fabric pots to take advantage of that air-pruning,...I think the plants will respond to that better, 'feeling" the restriction sooner, better than with roots winding about the perimeter otherwise,... As a precaution, did you get Red Line (their highest PK booster) and some E.J. Microblast for supp's and back-up? The micro's, I'm big on the constant low levels thing, along with humic-fulvics (read up in Reference section, good article there, plus BioAg.com and the product Ful-Humix- :thumbsup:, among the best out there, quality. price point, value),... the little bag I have still is going a long long way,.. only tiny amounts needed, once week generally,...
I was chatting a bit with Tom about the P300 intensity, especially center zone,... my thought, untested yet, was to try using a small piece of that clear plastic diffuser sheeting for reg. fluoro' lights, to help scatter and reduce intensity in that zone,.... how big a piece is still the question, but for sure leave outer perimeter unobstructed,...

>>> :greenthumb: :dancer: :woohoo1: the girls look fab' dudette! JK's a lovely plants, pretty leaves and color,.... GP and TF look to be forming that classic menorah build ....11 Roses too! the mutie is a trip, with that center wad of new growth! :biggrin: ... best of all, bloom is ON! :hump:
....ooooh, you're scientist enough luv! A lot of experience, trial and success/error,... you're spot on right about knowing your own grow gear and room behavior- :wiz:... solid deductive reasoning is all it takes,...!

>>> @Greenleaf Nutrients :toke: :pass: -- I dig how you guys pay attention and listen, observe,...and consider what tinkering could be done! That, and indeed, not trying to hock a dozen different products off on peoples- :nono:-- it's one reason why I hate AN, don't care if the products are great, their "game" and propaganda nauseate me,.... An auto-specfic formula would be fantastic! But can it still be all-in-one, is the question,...
... *(some post-post editting, fresh eyes, new thoughts)*.... the Ca and Mg troubles are a tougher thing to untangle,... I haven't found any scientific work that addresses the apparent elevation in demand for Ca and (to a lesser degree) Mg with LED's, but the anecdotal evidence has been piling high here that I see... I'm one of the Infirmary guys here, and I see Ca and Mg problem more and more as LED's take over the lighting scene,... Ca more so than Mg though, by a wide margin.... IMO, part of the problem is related to coco use, and folks not getting the whole CEC/high Ca binding and demand thing with it (again, Mg to a lesser degree), and treating it like true soil,:doh:...
Another is over doing the Ca-Mg (in any medium), which causes uptake issues with, ironically, themselves as well as other nutes! :doh: :rofl: .... So, adding more Mg (perhaps Ca too, or more importantly?) may or may not be helpful,... there's always the strain dependent behavior as well,... like I said, it's a tangle of issues, symptoms root causes vs. "downstream" effects! :help:
.... Ahhh, the N content deal,... I've been talking with pop22, 912Greenskell, Reb, even Dabber a bit, about this NPK ratio and how it may affect bud: leaf ratio during bloom, maybe even the initial bud setting-? :shrug:... We think for veg', MegaCrop is dialed in! :thumbsup:...... but for blooming, I'm not so sure.... For example, I've had a "water only" supersoil lose it's P right at early bloom, and it was a near disaster; none of the plants were what they should have been for bud:leaf by harvest, recovery with synthetic and organic PK sources was of variably limited success,... my point is, past a certain time, more P-K isn't much help to fix ealrier defc.'s and the consequences of them... I've been trying to watch some grows, and what strains they are, weighing what that strain is known to behave like for bud:leaf generally, and compare with what I/we see,.. Our collective opinion was that there may be much N going in for bloom, particularly for later stages,...(not always, some plants look as good as can be!), but some were more leafy than should be... And the suggestion for swapping out some Megacrop for Red Line has already been made- :greenthumb:.... my worry is still maintaining the secondary and especially, micronutrient levels when doing this,... right at when demand is highest,... :eek1:... hence my preventative use of micronute supplements and humic-fulvics.... yeah, so I'm admittedly a little butt-clenchy about this now- :crying:... (inside joke, but Reb knows about the Brown Cave Starfish twitching! :rofl:) .... the challenge of a true all-in-one formula is very very tough IMO,... yours is the closest I've seen to date :thumbsup:.... and thank you for explaining how some products do not play well with others, which is why in some cases there are at least 2-3 bottles for proper base nutes,... I think the MC + RL + SC is a complete package, and has some flexibility to work with for growers who need to alter ratios for whatever reason,...:headbang:
 
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:crying: oh gawd, that's too funny!-- you need this and Sister "Hairy Mary" Discipline greeting you next to the "remember this, don't forget that" neon sign in the grow room! :rofl: ...lest thy ass be scorch-ed by ye fiercesome laser brow- :hothot: :evil1: :haha:

:smoker1: hmmm, I dunno about not enough for the photo's Reb,.. 3 gal is still tiny-- to them! You're in a tougher balancing act that most, to feed well but not too much and cause them to root cramp up too soon, too much,... As a matter of science and trials, I'd seriously look into fabric pots to take advantage of that air-pruning,...I think the plants will respond to that better, 'feeling" the restriction sooner, better than with roots winding about the perimeter otherwise,... As a precaution, did you get Red Line (their highest PK booster) and some E.J. Microblast for supp's and back-up? The micro's, I'm big on the constant low levels thing, along with humic-fulvics (read up in Reference section, good article there, plus BioAg.com and the product Ful-Humix- :thumbsup:, among the best out there, quality. price point, value),... the little bag I have still is going a long long way,.. only tiny amounts needed, once week generally,...
I was chatting a bit with Tom about the P300 intensity, especially center zone,... my thought, untested yet, was to try using a small piece of that clear plastic diffuser sheeting for reg. fluoro' lights, to help scatter and reduce intensity in that zone,.... how big a piece is still the question, but for sure leave outer perimeter unobstructed,...

>>> :greenthumb: :dancer: :woohoo1: the girls look fab' dudette! JK's a lovely plants, pretty leaves and color,.... GP and TF look to be forming that classic menorah build ....11 Roses too! the mutie is a trip, with that center wad of new growth! :biggrin: ... best of all, bloom is ON! :hump:
....ooooh, you're scientist enough luv! A lot of experience, trial and success/error,... you're spot on right about knowing your ore grow gear and room behavior- :wiz:... solid deductive reasoning is all it takes,...!

>>> @Greenleaf Nutrients :toke: :pass: -- I dig how you guys pay attention and listen, observe,...and consider what tinkering could be done! That, and indeed, not trying to hock a dozen different products off on peoples- :nono:-- it's one reason why I hate AN, don't care if the products are great, their "game" and propaganda nauseate me,.... An auto-specfic formula would be fantastic! But can it still be all-in-one, is the question,...
... the Ca and Mg troubles are a tougher thing to untangle,... I haven't found any scientific work that addresses the apparent elevation in demand for Ca and Mg with LED's, but the anecdotal evidence has been piling high here that I see... I'm one of the Infirmary guys here, and I see Ca and Mg problem more and more as LED's take over the lighting scene,... part of the problem is related to coco use, and folks not getting the whole CEC/high Ca binding and demand thing with it, and treating it like true soil,:doh:... another is over doing the Ca-Mg (in any medium), which causes uptake issue with, ironically, themselves as well as other nutes! :doh: :rofl: .... So, adding more may or may not be helpful,... there's always the strain dependent behavior as well,... like I said, it's a tangle of issues, symptoms root causes vs. "downstream" effects! :help:
.... Ahhh, the N content deal,... I've been talking with pop22, 912Greenskell, Reb, even Dabber a bit, about this NPK ratio and how it may affect bud: leaf ratio during bloom, maybe even the initial bud setting-? :shrug:... We think for veg', MegaCrop is dialed in! ...... but for example, I've had a "water only" supersoil lose it's P right at early bloom, and it was a near disaster; none of the plants were what they should have been for bud:leaf by harvest, recovery with synthetic and organic PK sources was of variably limited success,... I've been trying to watch some grows, and what strains they are, weighing what that strain is known to behave like for bud:leaf generally, and compare with what I/we see,.. Our collective opinion was that there may be much N going in for bloom, particularly for later stages,...(not always, some plants look as good as can be!), but some were more leafy than should be... And the suggestion for swapping out some Megacrop for Red Line has already been made- :greenthumb:.... my worry is still maintaining the secondary and especially, micronutrient levels when doing this,... right at when demand is highest,... :eek1:... hence my preventative use of micronute supplements and humic-fulvics.... yeah, so I'm admittedly a little butt-clenchy about this now- :crying:... (inside joke, but Reb knows about the Brown Cave Starfish twitching! :rofl:) .... the challenge of a true all-in-one formula is very very tough IMO,... yours is the closest I've seen to date :thumbsup:.... and thank you for explaining how some products do not play well with others, which is why in some cases there are at least 2-3 bottles for proper base nutes,... I think the MC + RL + SC is a complete package, and has some flexibility to work with for growers who need to alter ratios for whatever reason,...:headbang:

I'm a smarter guy each time I read your posts. The bits I can understand at least.

I bought Red Line, Sweet Candy and Mother Monarch on top of MC. I did not get Bud Explosion like many do (Its officially their PK booster now).

As a newb, I prefer a more balanced PK going into flower and throughout. MC is higher K, medium N and lower P. When adding in SC, it gives even more K cos its 0-0-1. Bud Explosion also has higher K than P. Using BE as PK booster just doesn't seem right to me. Seems no matter how you mix it, K is gonna be much higher than P. I seem to notice higher P gives larger buds so....?

So i also feel that RL is a better PK booster, even with a little N. Mother Monarch is for when I really don't want to increase N by even a bit. Good for strains that are N sensitive.

In other words, my choice of booster focuses on balancing up the PK on MC. Is this in line with your findings as well?


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If you cut the N (or if we reduce current dosage), couldn't the B-ALIVE be used to provide more N and boosters, such as during the vegetative growth period.?

Yes, B-Alive has humics and kelp and a few other things, some growers may not want all of this. Humics have a big particle size and can clog dippers/misters, and some growing types will not benefit from humics either.

CalMag products also have Nitrogen, so a simple way to boost N without P or K is just using CalMag.
 
Quick update..

Roleadro replacement 5W panel came yesterday and I got it all switched out and back up and running.

Photos and older Autos will be updated this evening! Busy day today...

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:crying: oh gawd, that's too funny!-- you need this and Sister "Hairy Mary" Discipline greeting you next to the "remember this, don't forget that" neon sign in the grow room! :rofl: ...lest thy ass be scorch-ed by ye fiercesome laser brow- :hothot: :evil1: :haha:

:smoker1: hmmm, I dunno about not enough for the photo's Reb,.. 3 gal is still tiny-- to them! You're in a tougher balancing act that most, to feed well but not too much and cause them to root cramp up too soon, too much,... As a matter of science and trials, I'd seriously look into fabric pots to take advantage of that air-pruning,...I think the plants will respond to that better, 'feeling" the restriction sooner, better than with roots winding about the perimeter otherwise,... As a precaution, did you get Red Line (their highest PK booster) and some E.J. Microblast for supp's and back-up? The micro's, I'm big on the constant low levels thing, along with humic-fulvics (read up in Reference section, good article there, plus BioAg.com and the product Ful-Humix- :thumbsup:, among the best out there, quality. price point, value),... the little bag I have still is going a long long way,.. only tiny amounts needed, once week generally,...
I was chatting a bit with Tom about the P300 intensity, especially center zone,... my thought, untested yet, was to try using a small piece of that clear plastic diffuser sheeting for reg. fluoro' lights, to help scatter and reduce intensity in that zone,.... how big a piece is still the question, but for sure leave outer perimeter unobstructed,...

>>> :greenthumb: :dancer: :woohoo1: the girls look fab' dudette! JK's a lovely plants, pretty leaves and color,.... GP and TF look to be forming that classic menorah build ....11 Roses too! the mutie is a trip, with that center wad of new growth! :biggrin: ... best of all, bloom is ON! :hump:
....ooooh, you're scientist enough luv! A lot of experience, trial and success/error,... you're spot on right about knowing your own grow gear and room behavior- :wiz:... solid deductive reasoning is all it takes,...!

>>> @Greenleaf Nutrients :toke: :pass: -- I dig how you guys pay attention and listen, observe,...and consider what tinkering could be done! That, and indeed, not trying to hock a dozen different products off on peoples- :nono:-- it's one reason why I hate AN, don't care if the products are great, their "game" and propaganda nauseate me,.... An auto-specfic formula would be fantastic! But can it still be all-in-one, is the question,...
... *(some post-post editting, fresh eyes, new thoughts)*.... the Ca and Mg troubles are a tougher thing to untangle,... I haven't found any scientific work that addresses the apparent elevation in demand for Ca and (to a lesser degree) Mg with LED's, but the anecdotal evidence has been piling high here that I see... I'm one of the Infirmary guys here, and I see Ca and Mg problem more and more as LED's take over the lighting scene,... Ca more so than Mg though, by a wide margin.... IMO, part of the problem is related to coco use, and folks not getting the whole CEC/high Ca binding and demand thing with it (again, Mg to a lesser degree), and treating it like true soil,:doh:...
Another is over doing the Ca-Mg (in any medium), which causes uptake issues with, ironically, themselves as well as other nutes! :doh: :rofl: .... So, adding more Mg (perhaps Ca too, or more importantly?) may or may not be helpful,... there's always the strain dependent behavior as well,... like I said, it's a tangle of issues, symptoms root causes vs. "downstream" effects! :help:
.... Ahhh, the N content deal,... I've been talking with pop22, 912Greenskell, Reb, even Dabber a bit, about this NPK ratio and how it may affect bud: leaf ratio during bloom, maybe even the initial bud setting-? :shrug:... We think for veg', MegaCrop is dialed in! :thumbsup:...... but for blooming, I'm not so sure.... For example, I've had a "water only" supersoil lose it's P right at early bloom, and it was a near disaster; none of the plants were what they should have been for bud:leaf by harvest, recovery with synthetic and organic PK sources was of variably limited success,... my point is, past a certain time, more P-K isn't much help to fix ealrier defc.'s and the consequences of them... I've been trying to watch some grows, and what strains they are, weighing what that strain is known to behave like for bud:leaf generally, and compare with what I/we see,.. Our collective opinion was that there may be much N going in for bloom, particularly for later stages,...(not always, some plants look as good as can be!), but some were more leafy than should be... And the suggestion for swapping out some Megacrop for Red Line has already been made- :greenthumb:.... my worry is still maintaining the secondary and especially, micronutrient levels when doing this,... right at when demand is highest,... :eek1:... hence my preventative use of micronute supplements and humic-fulvics.... yeah, so I'm admittedly a little butt-clenchy about this now- :crying:... (inside joke, but Reb knows about the Brown Cave Starfish twitching! :rofl:) .... the challenge of a true all-in-one formula is very very tough IMO,... yours is the closest I've seen to date :thumbsup:.... and thank you for explaining how some products do not play well with others, which is why in some cases there are at least 2-3 bottles for proper base nutes,... I think the MC + RL + SC is a complete package, and has some flexibility to work with for growers who need to alter ratios for whatever reason,...:headbang:

Refresh my memory *puts on blonde wig* what do you mean you don't know if it's not enough for the photos... Doses or bag size? :smoking:

Photoperiods

Let's begin with the Jedi Kush males... 3/4 JK are males so far. Total bummer but it is what it is. That's why I did 4... And I won't be surprised if the last one is also a male. We'll see... Well here's my 3 dudes. That are now culled...

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This one had a killer leaf mutation...
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The Last Jedi... Ha! Waiting on sex to show...
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Think Fast (I've already plucked two nanners off it... @Waira... Still think it's all in my head?! The ONLY one in the whole damn tent!! :rofl:)
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Green Poison (not even 2 weeks in 12/12 already frosting up and smelling fruity. God I LOVE this STRAIN!!)
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Picture limit hit. Next post 11 Roses...
 
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