Hahahaha, i don't know what got into me that day. Penguin brings out the best im me.

You gotta take care of yourself first bud, life happens to us all. You need that arm so go easy with it.

Pm me when you can, no rush bud.

LMFAO!! That shit was classic!!

:smokeout: :pass::smokeout: Hey Coffee mates!

... Reb, I see this with increasing frequency at the Infirmary! It is indeed a proximity/localized intensity thing, not just heat/low RH/strong air movement combo thing... I don't know what the exact physiology behind this reaction is...oddly, root damage can cause similar edge rolling as well- :shrug: but because it never corrects, this suggests that the cells themselves are being affected, and growing at uneven rates or proportions, possibly in different layers..? I recall hearing something about certain strains showing tendencies to do this, but typically during bloom, not as seedlings...
:thumbsup: Good basics article found by EoW! yes, there's not a linear relationship between more light = more growth/bud production; there are physiological limits that bottleneck things at many different levels (cell to whole plant), or overwhelm them and start causing damage to the intercellular machinery (bleaching-- destruction of the photosynthetic machinery, breakdown of chlorophyll)... In truth, it gets complicated fast, depending on what the limiting factors are within the plant itself,... that section on Tip Burn, Nute Defc., dying leaves is really about the transpiration process, moving water and nute's from roots up leaf tips... K+ plays a thermal regulation role in this process, along with simple evaporative cooling, which is directly affected by the amount of light energy going in, along with env. factors (T, RH, air movement... often overlooked is high RH, which anybody who's been in that kind of climate can tell you; you sweat gallons, but don't cool, making you sweat even more)... plants in really high RH that can't cool go into heat stress just like they would in dry conditions... dead tissue just doesn't get crispy as fast! Heat stress exacerbates nute burn, may even cause it because several nute' elements (especially N) are taken up and assimilated whether the plant needs them or not... ramp up the transpiration rate, and the nute come along for the ride in kind! It's not hard to accumulate to the point of toxicity if things are rich enough down below.... trouble is, lots of toxicity/defc. symptoms can overlap in appearance, or get muddied together as, naturally, more than one thing is going wrong at a time! Hammering the leaf into metabolic overdrive could potentially also cause defc's, if reserves are low to begin with, and the sudden demand increase pushes things beyond what's available,... :dizzy: Quiz Friday! :crying:

:yoinks: deewd, WTF did you do to your arm?! I saw nothing in Globals about it,...:nono:

Quiz FRIDAY?! fuck me!!!ROFLMFAO!!! Man I swear I owe you money toward your Masters degree!! Thanks brudda! As per @Eyeoftheworld 's advice I raised my light up!! And they are rocking now!!

Oh well about a weeks ago I had an accident in the house with a ceramic crock pot and chipped the bone on the inside if my right arm right next to my elbow. Its still swollen a week later. Today its feeling better but it's annoying and I haven't been able to play guitar in a week and I'm not happy about that lmao
 
OK not to ignore all you guys' previous posts but its almost 5am... I have to be up in 5 hrs. I can't sleep so I've been thinking about my plants and the leds...

I think I just had an epiphany lmao but seriously. And if anyone thinks this is old news please yell up because its late and I just may be stoned and silly...

OK so last few days I've been playing with heights on my seedlings. I lowered the led a few inches and I noticed yesterday and today I have a bit of taco'ing going on... But didn't move the led.

Today I'm in there and right under the light with the kids. Now this is my thought process. For years I've been told and repeated to countless others that taco'ing is from heat. "oh its too hot. Use your hand to feel out the heat. Raise it up."

Now I'm not saying there's no correlation at all between heat and leaf curling upwards but today I put my hand over the seedlings. No heat at all. I put the top of my hand directly on the modules/diodes. No heat AT ALL.

My point. Intensity. How can the taco'ing be happening with no excessive heat? In the room or right up on them? It was 75 in my room today. Its the intensity of the led lights that are causing the taco'ing.

OK so what does this mean? Is this BAD? If you are thinking in regards to heat well yes. But heat and intensity are two different things. Anyone following me? Lol

Please post your thoughts... I want to know if this is old news or legitimate... Or is it late and I'm just slow in catching up to old news?

@Waira
plants seem to devour intensity; extreme heat for short periods no problem in the greenhouse, prolonged heat wilt and stress.
 
plants seem to devour intensity; extreme heat for short periods no problem in the greenhouse, prolonged heat wilt and stress.

Yes good point and observation! I see the same in my room.


I noticed with my window + led spring grow that young plants did well close to light, but after time had to progressively increase distance from light to prevent burn, in bloom 16" to 18" worked good for 25w led

Thanks for the info TA!

Here's a couple "cheap shots" of the 14 day olds and 4 day olds as of today...

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I have final pics of the tangi-matics, WW, BBC and probably something I'm forgetting lol but i just haven't had the time to get on my laptop. Soon!!

*sharing one*
 
Oh how could I forget.... Yesterday this little baby arrived. It's insanely bright!! Its being hung tonight and will grow Sister Discipline under it... @Eyeoftheworld turned me on to this make of leds. Not just red and blue but green band as well. It's a Roleadro 600W. I'm very stoked!!

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Got the Roleadro 600W up in the 3x3 and 3 x Sister Discipline F2 are waiting to pop out under it. First time attempting to grow out the F2s... I'm stoked!

This is a pic of the tent and just the led hanging...

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