Real Science vs Bro Science: Ohhh some of you are NOT going to like this!

[Fitzy]

So here’s kind of my thinking on that. I think that the “exact” copy thing is more of a medical deal. Here’s what I mean. The main reason folks want to be able to have The exact genetic copy, is for it to produce the exact effect(on the consumer end) and the exact same replicated process(for the growers) With that being said I don’t think the end recreational consumer is NEARLY as concerned with the exact cannabanoid profile as a true medical user, and I think that with stable enough autos you can get suuuuuuper close to the same profile each time within a couple percentage points. I mean yes you will always have outliers ie more or less frosty. But for the most part almost all of them willl be pretty close right?
So let me ask you, why is it so important to be able to replicate exactly? In your opinion

I see pheno variations and % difference taste ect in dispenseries that I've been to for example with ghost train haze I've had 4 min concentrates that were different by up to 10% active thc ect and the thing I noticed most was flavor and effects also if they were smart they would separate phenos and label them gth#1 gth#2 ect bc even though I don't have a card don't mean I'm not using for medical or rec uses. The place I'm speaking about is in 6 states if I'm remembering correctly so big Corp type. It seem 90% of people in are in it to make money ownly which is very unfortunate is this wat you guys see aswell? Or similar stuff I mean it's obvious there's money to be made but that should not be the only goal and I was always told of your going to do it strive to be the best quality,customer service ect.

 

[Fitzy]

Devil's advocate, a ridiculous amount of medical users purchase cannabis from recreational dispensaries, simply because of the hoops you jump through to get a medical card (you give up some rights.)

I shop rec myself and I know what something should smell and taste like; even with your clone-only photos the experience varies from grow to grow. Same clones, same mothers, but how it's grown make a WORLD of difference.

Now that said, a lot of rec users don't give a shit. One of our local dispensaries just bargain hunts out weed, they have some SERIOUSLY shitty stuff on the shelf lol. But it sells. Because broke ass poor people just want to get high.

It's bc people don't really no any better I want the best even if that means I have to conserve it the buzz tastes ect are just so much better

 

[derek420colorado]

I see pheno variations and % difference taste ect in dispenseries that I've been to for example with ghost train haze I've had 4 min concentrates that were different by up to 10% active thc ect and the thing I noticed most was flavor and effects also if they were smart they would separate phenos and label them gth#1 gth#2 ect bc even though I don't have a card don't mean I'm not using for medical or rec uses. The place I'm speaking about is in 6 states if I'm remembering correctly so big Corp type. It seem 90% of people in are in it to make money ownly which is very unfortunate is this wat you guys see aswell? Or similar stuff I mean it's obvious there's money to be made but that should not be the only goal and I was always told of your going to do it strive to be the best quality,customer service ect.

Yep and I think I can can do both! Honestly though I am runnin on fumes atm. I gotta take a nap. After an 18 hour day yesterday I slept like 4 hours and Was back up at 5:30 This mornin. So I gotta take a little bit of a rest day lol. Whoever says growin pot is lazy or easy I dare them to come spend a few days in my world lol

 

[derek420colorado]

It's bc people don't really no any better I want the best even if that means I have to conserve it the buzz tastes ect are just so much better

And that’s one of my main points. Folks at the end of the day really wanna get Hugh before anything else. We have come to like the tastes and smells, but that is only because it is associated in our brains with getting high(or pain relief etc) if weed had zero effect we would not smoke it and think it smelled and tasted like shite. The same reason most people dont drink non alcoholic beer cause bread water is gross lmao

 

[Steviestash]

 

[Steviestash]

These guys do some sort of tissue culture

 

[Fitzy]

Also @ my dispensery I go to they have auto as I found a seed grew it and flowered under 24hrs of light this was 4yrs ago so I'm sure they are in more dispenseries and tbh medicinal wise I think autos have a better balance of cannabinoid content which makes for better meds. I recently smoked a landrace pure photo and the same landrace bread out to f4 reg and it worked much better as pain relief than the photo version which was bread to @least f8 he's been working this for close to 10yrs the photo anyway. I think photos will get surpassed just like hos lights soon those will be faded out or only a few for supplement lighting. And if you ever need help in always down to help out good people especially when they love this plant as much as I do keep up the great work.
Ps there's a big difference from planting cannabis and cultivating cannabis and the old saying applies anything worth doing won't be easy sending good vibes and karma ur way now get some rest bud!

 

[Death The Cultivator]

@derek420colorado Maybe you have said this but do your LAGs come equipped with technology to measure DLI and allow the lights to compensate throughout the day for the DLI the sun isn't providing?

Using high bay lights run by a sensor would save money on photos or autos. Also I've heard about commercial growers having issues with autopots, is there an alternative system for the LAGs?

It also takes a month to culture, then hardening off/vegging but the space used is significantly less and I concur with @pop22 you would have to someone with a degree doing the cultures. I think it's more practical for medical needs where you might want to avoid disease and pathogens like the Tobacco mosaic virus. Recreational should go with localized artisanal cannabis that can be tagged like product of Saint Louis, MO or Humboldt county.

 

[Mir]

If you are ever in Pueblo or east of Pueblo, you can shop at Mesa Organics and buy weed that I grew though

Now I want to visit Pueblo, and I don't even know where it is. Come on, Son.

 

[MeDo]

And thank you the good discussion!