Outdoor PINEAPPLE EXPRESS!!!PLEASE HELP MEEEEE!!!!!

[johnnybones]

I planted 4 Barneys farm Pineapple express 22 days agos,i soaked the soil in a 2 gallon pots placed the seed and covered with cling film, they popped up within two days. All seemed well, now they are at day 18 and the tallest one is 3/4 inches and still has its little round nursery leafs. Im growing inside a green house that gets direct sun most of the day(10 hours) they get roughly 16 hours in total. I have used baby bio on them once but where they are so small i dont want to use anything to harsh. Ive looked at so many grow journals and everyone elses seem to be 2 or 3 times the size of mine, they still look like seedlings to me. I will try and post pictures. PLEASE HELP this is my first AF grow and i really wanted it to be sucsessful(tired of waiting till september till my harvest!!) Im south east uk if it helps. thanks...
JohnnyBones

 

[stanko]

Not sure about baby bio. I know my mum used to use it for her shinny house plants.

your gonna need to supply more info for some help i think...

try an listen to what these guys say, it's not always possible to do everything but the more you do the better it turns out..
so far, I have had 3 pandora, 3 maxi-gom (well i have one 4 inch runt left ) 1 little cheese and 2 pineapple express stay stunted and die, they all germinated fine.. just couldn't get them to grow... but I was using soil that was ph'd about 7.7 and high ph tap water..

check out how mine were doing at about 2.5 weeks (first pics) then after transplanting them, in to some canna soil 6 days later. (not saying you need that brand) I wish I could try full duplex's soil but not everything is readily available for me to do it.

Stay positive, it can change dramatically..

 

[Joe Dirt]

Johnny, take a deep breath, it will probably be ok.

I am an expert at bad starts. It only has to happen once! LOL

There are plenty of good folk on here that can help you but you need to provide more information.

For now, don't do anything (other than a normal watering).

What will help others help you:

Are you using water with a pH of 6.3-6.8?

What did you start your seedings in (soil mix)?

How often are you watering?

Very Helpful: You mentioned posting some pics... there are a number of folk here that can tell you an awful lot from a pic.

Don't worry, you'll get help. See what you can do about helping out with some more info.

 

[Northern Grower]

Most seedlings don't need any food until day 14, or the 3rd node. Food early on can stunt them, and it will effect your male/female ratios.

If you learn to read deficiencies you can actually see when the plant is telling you it needs food.

Until things start to happen i'd go with water only.

Wiz always says, "when in doubt, leave it out"


The slow growth could be any number of things.. Temp, soil drainage, light.. Some times you'll get a plant that has a real lack of vigor, it's just part of the game.

Edit: I re-read your post, you also said you directly planted it into the 2gal pot. The plant will spend allot more time putting down roots with a big pot like that. Once the root mass hits a critical point the top end will explode.
I directly planted some auto assasin into 2gal bags, they took 3 to 4 weeks to really get going. This is why i stick to a transplanting type method.

Like the other fellas said, stay positive.

 

[johnnybones]

Thanks guys, thats was an insainly quick reply.lol

I have only used bottled water on them not sure on ph, i have litmus paper but it doesn't seem to change.
The temp on a avarage day is 22-25 but i have seen it @ 30.
The soil mix i used was just a potting mix from wilkinsons very standard compost with a slight fertilizer.
Im watering them 3 times a week maybe more if its been hot and they seem dry.
just figuring out how to upload these photos, please bear with me and thank you for your help and quick responces.

 

[whatsgoodie]

They sound stunted...

30C/86F is an acceptable temperature range. Anything over 85 can supposedly start to slow some growth but nothing drastic..

Do you have an online link to the soil so we can see what fertilizers are in it?

Bottled water is typically more alkaline than the plant can utilize and will lock out a ton of nutrients due to the PH. As well, depending on the bottled water you're using, it may have the trace elements removed.

If you use any pre fertilized soil I would never feed them anything until a minimum of 3 weeks in. As well some of those ferts can be locked out depending on the PH of the soil.

 

[johnnybones]

here are the pics, I doubt theres an online link but ill dig the bag out and write what was in it.

 

[johnnybones]

http://www.wilkinsonplus.com/compos...cDPfxIrYzUvEu76RzzM6wutKTeo9AOCB tDs76aYYKg==


here is the link to the site, the more i look at it the more i wished id waited and got a decent soil mix
is it me or is AF a lot harder? Ive had several great harvests from clones and seeds with standard strains. Im really enjoying the challange tho so glad i found you guys!!

 

[mr.mcgregor]

they look about right to me, its still dropping to single figures at night which is causing a slight slow down. over the next 10 days they will get alot bigger then they will explode with growth. i have autos that i planted directly outdoors a month ago that are the same size as yours. dont worry about feeding them anymore, if your unsure when you need to start give tbem food keep us updated witb lots of photos and someone will let you know when they start looking hungry

 

[Northern Grower]

I am going with the soil mix, slowing them down. I don't see much perlite in there. So more than likey the soil is going to compact a bit which is going to restrict the roots. They do look small but they are at the same point my assasins stayed at for a few weeks, then they started to do stuff.

If i am using 2 gal of soil i will add a 1/3rd of that in perlite. If it's not mixed in allready. That's why i like sunshine mix or promix, it's perlite'd and ph'd, and no nutes. So you can water it in if you need or start adding amendments for organic.

is it me or is AF a lot harder?

I don't sing about it. But you are correct mate.. Clones, you know what each plant needs it's easy, mix one big batch of nutes. You can write it down and for the most part the formula never changes.
AF's each plant has different needs. So one size does NOT fit all! I can say well i use 15ml/4L of fish ferts at week 6.. But your plant might need 20. See what i mean? I like to teach people how to read their plants opposed to a fert "schedule" for autos.

AF's will make you a better grower, since you will have to get used to reading what the plants are telling you, in terms of fert needs. If you have the basics down, ph, temp, soil mix, we can help with the rest.