Phtotos have nothing on autos, terpene wise! No? Grow Mephisto's Chemdogging. I grew some. One day, I asked my lady if the cat died. We don't have a cat.......... PEEEWWW!! The Death flower might be stinkier but not by much!
Ogre Berry was the stinkiest BY FAR I've grown! At least she was GOOD smellin!Phtotos have nothing on autos, terpene wise! No? Grow Mephisto's Chemdogging. I grew some. One day, I asked my lady if the cat died. We don't have a cat.......... PEEEWWW!! The Death flower might be stinkier but not by much!
No, most modern autos have had 90%+ of the Ruderalis genetics bred out of it. Most crosses now are a photo with an existing hybrid auto or are auto x auto crosses. The majority of the genetics in all modern autoflowers came from photoperiods. The only superiority that photos have is the ability to clone them. However, if you make your own fem seeds, from one plant, each seed is pretty much a clone of the mother. Also, even clones can express genetic variation depending on environment, nutrients, etc. There is no guarantee your fancy and expensive clone ofI think with autos you are at a bit more disadvantage because you can't perpetually clone a really good keeper. Let's not forget alot more work has been put into the cannabis gene pool some long before any of us were even alive and the majority of that work has been put into photos so I don't think it's a fair comparison. Plus the last thirty years if autos had the amount of work put into them photos would be a tiny bit less desirable. My two cents for what it's worth.
Well, S1s aren't really what you assume they are. At first i thought the same thing, but have since been corrected. I'd advise giving this discussion a listen. (Starting around 9 min they discuss exactly this)No, most modern autos have had 90%+ of the Ruderalis genetics bred out of it. Most crosses now are a photo with an existing hybrid auto or are auto x auto crosses. The majority of the genetics in all modern autoflowers came from photoperiods. The only superiority that photos have is the ability to clone them. However, if you make your own fem seeds, from one plant, each seed is pretty much a clone of the mother. Also, even clones can express genetic variation depending on environment, nutrients, etc. There is no guarantee your fancy and expensive clone of
( whatever ) is going to be just like the mother.
Well, S1s aren't really what you assume they are. At first i thought the same thing, but have since been corrected. I'd advise giving this discussion a listen. (Starting around 9 min they discuss exactly this)
But outdoor vs indoor is at least as big a difference as auto vs photo. We can control so much more inside that positively affects taste & yield. It's a question that's bugged me for years & I'm leaning toward the genetics of photoperiods being better for taste ,& smell. Ask me again next year!Between my outdoor photos and indoor autos there is no comparison, the autos win big time for flavor and thc strength.
I can't get my smellavision & terpentaster to sync with your pics! I'll work on that!I have both flowering at the same stage right now I won’t say which is which but you decide A or B.View attachment 1568576View attachment 1568577
One of these is visually more terpy but that’s up to you to decide not me
Well put!I've been growing commercially for over 3 years now. I have seen some of the most garbage photperiod "clone only" boofy boof you've ever seen sitting on the shelf. I have seen countless photoperiod cultivars test out in single digit cannabinoids. Photoperiods that don't yield for shit regardless of how they are grown. Photoperiods that have no smell, no terp profile, but hey they were "photoperiod clone only."
I've watched an entire greenhouses of Ethos photo clones hermie (lol that was on the owner of this grow though; he did something he shouldn't have late in flower.)
Rather than it being "us vs them" when it comes to autos and photos; I say "these are tools in the toolbox for growing. Some jobs you prefer a hammer, some jobs need a saw. But you're glad you have the OPTION depending on what the situation best dictates."
Being that outdoor, you cannot control conditions…. But if perfect conditions were present thru entire outdoor grow, you would see (feel and taste) a big difference. Don’t get me wrong… I agree with @Son of Hobbes that they are all tools!But outdoor vs indoor is at least as big a difference as auto vs photo. We can control so much more inside that positively affects taste & yield. It's a question that's bugged me for years & I'm leaning toward the genetics of photoperiods being better for taste ,& smell. Ask me again next year!