Indoor ph rise question

[komach]

Yes, I hear it as well that why I bought this big loudy pump, and even after I lowered pressure it gives same amount of bubbles. And about roots, it is sometimes some ones not bigger than 1cm. Not sure but don't think it making a lot of problem to my plants as they look healthy and keep growing :booya:

 

[sativalover]

Well good thing you found alittle about the ph issue was going to ask if ph adjuster compensated for temp but now you already know
how do you introduce air ??? do you use an air stone??
if not it will difuse the intensity of the bubbles stones are pretty cheap but if not available take a plastic bottle insert a hole into the cap so air line will fit into it then poke a bunch of small holes into the bottle once submerged into water and it fills up and sinks to the bottom of the res the air going through the bottle will also difuse the air intensity
if you find the bubbles are still too big and powerful then you could put the bottle into some pantyhose and this will difuse the air even more
if alot of air is making the bottle rise you may need to weight it down w/ some peegravel or something else ph neutral/inert
remember the faster the roots are able to do their job do to the increase of air being pumped in the more ph will fluctuate
also try to check ph dif times a day when roots have been working the ph will be more dramatically changing because of production of acids from roots
ph will tend to be higher during times of rest like lights out and will be more acidic when the roots are rapidly exchanging during day light hours

 

[komach]

Thanks for your reply,
I use airtones like this but 25cm , my air-pump was still to powerful for 2 of them... For the moment everything seems to be under control.Still I check if some of the roots being ripped and if so make a new little hole in airpipe. I check ph 2 time a day. 2-4 hours before they have dark period and 2-5 after. My girls are still to young to make a lot of ph change, but they are growing really fast. I think I will start a grow journal soon.

 

[BigBuddha]

Nice one, K. I'm glad you're getting on top of the problem. Happy days man

 

[sativalover]

it gets sorta messy at harvest because it gets tangled in roots but you can put a layer of lava rock over
the bottom of the res on top of the air stone this will settle down the intensity of bubbles and the natural holes in the lava rock will hold more oxygen at the bottom

 

[komach]

it gets sorta messy at harvest because it gets tangled in roots but you can put a layer of lava rock over
the bottom of the res on top of the air stone this will settle down the intensity of bubbles and the natural holes in the lava rock will hold more oxygen at the bottom

Thanks :thumbs:, every day I learn something new . I'v tried already to put something on the stone but it become worth then before. If I'll get more problems with roots I'll try your method. Hope that I will not need it

 

[sativalover]

will post a few things
darn connection
ok well you are now on the verge of understanding the most important part
Don't bubble all the time
Why??? of course..
well look at it like this just every thing too much of a good thing is bad
i will continus to explain

 

[sativalover]

bubble 10 on 10 off see if this lessens the fluctuation
remember yes you are doing what is needed when asking the most from your plants
we do all these things to push our girls but if they aren't given the most basic thing than they can still only push so much
now back to the added air
the plant will only require so much and the water can only hold so much depending on the temp but i think this has been covered now
yes it is great to add air but when too much is added the balance is disturbed and this is the reason for the wild fluctuation at times
but look you can take your water source test the ph and account for temp then add 10-15 min of air and test note the change then do 25-30 min of air and check this will give you a base line now introduce nute's and working plant roots and test it
all plants will be slightly dif and conditions will vary w/ medium dif
but point is the water will reach a saturation point and more isn't needed
this will give the roots time to rest between turbulation cycles and grow stronger

 

[komach]

My res temps is rising sometimes to 23c maybe even 24 and it will kill my plants if I will turn it for 50%. Tonight I'll check if it rept some roots and if not I'll stay like this. And roots just getting bigger and gets more hairs

 

[lostboy]

Hi komach,

Glad you're getting your ph issues sorted. I'm using vitalink at the moment with no trouble. But that's running out and I have canna aqua for my next run so I'm expecting similar issues.

Re your air. I run my pumps 24/7 with no problems. I did trash some early roots when it was too turbulent but I soon realised it was my crappy air stones.

You want a nice vigorous fizz not a turbulent broil. I have tried quite a few stones now and ANGEL AQUA seem the best by far.
Another thought, if you're running 2 res with 42.5 liters going it to them then I imagine it would be quite hectic in there.
What about adding a couple more stones in to spread the air coming from the pump? Worked for me, but I'm only running 2x60 l/m on 6 buckets.

Sorry if you know these things already just typing my thoughts.

Hope it settles down for ya

Peace

Lostboy