Non Ruderalis Auto Flowering Strain. Possible?

[ODG]

Have a "Auto" Sativa I've managed from the late 70's. 90 to 95 days down here in the southern hemisphere.Can finish on our longest day of the year if planted 90 days prior,however it shows a photo trait if planted near the shortest day.e.g Cut what is finished on the top half at around 90 then get another much larger quantity 80 days later ( right near the longest day). I actually joined AFN to discuss somethings about it.But that's for another thread down the track. So I'm thinkin it has no Ruderalis in it?

 

[Greenthumbskunk]

I have the Iranian Auto, it's an Indica based plant with nice bugs and a good powerful smoke. It is not Ruderelis but is photo sensitive. It will grow under a continuous 24 hr light and not flower. Give it 1 hr of darkness and it will go into flowering.
You can grow these plants as big as you want and then turn the light off so it will go into flower. I crossed this plant with a Mulajne male and it has shortened up the flowering where it started to flower in late July. It's taking it's sweet time though.

 

[Johnny AwesomeSeeds]

I had 3 world of seeds ketama males auto on me under 24 hrs light with high n nutes but they were super rootbound intentionally. All the info I've got on this, and also have heard that some paki strains will do this.

 

[Johnny AwesomeSeeds]

Read some DJ Short stuff. He talks about tossing out the males that would auto flower on him

Yes you can find non auto flower sativas.

DJ short also points out that indicas and sativas evolved on opposite sides of the Himalayas... High mountain Rudy evolved into Sativa and indica as another post suggested?

 

[hank]

I'm not so sure Rudy is a Sativa. I think its Rudy. But I could be wrong.

 

[Johnny AwesomeSeeds]

I'm not so sure Rudy is a Sativa. I think its Rudy. But I could be wrong.

I agree lol Rudy is Rudy.
i was posing the idea that all canna began as Rudy in the Himalayas and evolved into indicas as they came down the mountains into more rocky regions on one side, and sativas as they moved further towards the equator. Thanks for letting me clarify that and not just calling me a dumbass haha

 

[J Icky]

Sorry for bringing up an "older" thread but on most sites if I would've started a new thread to discuss this I would've been told to search for the old threads bt at the same time when I would bring up the old thread they would complain about digging up old threads.

ANyway this topic really interests me but from reading everything here I do have a couple questions. Ok clearly theres some here that think Rudy is the mother of all cannabis. The thinking is that while modern Rudy are the easiest path to the auto gene but with work you can create an auto indica. Now the thing that has me wondering is the talk about auto sativas. Everything mentioned here says sativas "auto" in certain stress situations but that wouldn't really be auto, it would just be the plants response to stress and therefor couldn't be bred for. Does this mean that while sativas are a descendent of rudy that at ths pint in their evolution that the genes/alleles responsible for the auto are either so diluted or even completely gone that it would be impossible for someone to create a true breeding auto sativa in a single lifetime?

 

[Johnny AwesomeSeeds]

Had some ace China yunnan auto on me under specific conditions also. Im convinced flowering can be induced by hormonal changes, dark periods, root ball size and/or space, diminishing light periods, as well as in some cases shift in angle, distance and spectrum of light. I don't wanna give too much info because I hope to breed non rudy autos as well, not that my research is invaluable, but I do believe it is a traits that can be bred many ways.

 

[Johnny AwesomeSeeds]

I meant to add, age of a plant with a lifecycle such as cannabi is could be considered a stressor, and therefore the argument stands that all cannabis plants flower under a particular form of stressor, period.