Myth Busting - Revegging Autoflowers
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hmmm...ok....here'z the reazon i was askin about the age of the mom/donor -> given the basic rule o' thumb for an auto of 1m to veg, 2m to flower, and the fact that they're on a clock, let'z say u cut/clone a branch from the mom when she'z 3w old...duz that mean the clone will start flowerin in jus another week, or...
pppI just shot by the seat of my pantshmmm...ok....here'z the reazon i was askin about the age of the mom/donor -> given the basic rule o' thumb for an auto of 1m to veg, 2m to flower, and the fact that they're on a clock, let'z say u cut/clone a branch from the mom when she'z 3w old...duz that mean the clone will start flowerin in jus another week, or...
So i got lucky i guess
This will be interesting to see. I have cloned autos at the 3 to 4 week mark and had small plants with decent results. Just not anywhere near the mother plants size at harvest. I have a greenhouse grown auto that has a couple new leaves starting after I harvested it and just placed it on the deck outside to wither and die 3 weeks ago. Certainly would not call it re-vegging at this point.
Moved one of my old LR #2's outside while it was in flower and damn thing went back into veg mode for almost a month
And that was coming from a 24hr light schedule lolyes you are right about being smaller.
The one on the left is the clone
Donor on the right.
The single is also a clone but still nice
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Interesting Topic hobbes! ^_^
It would be great if we could get some botany / science guys in here to explain the (modern or original) process of making an "autoflower" and how dominant / recessive genes work and how or if they could be altered in a plant growth cycle or (as my perception goes), would need to be selected from a trait exhibited in further breeding.
My perception of a true autoflower .. is that it is on a life and death timer, and that is a gene that was dominant to ruderalis, but not dominant (or perharps even there) to photo dependant strains. (but cross bred into what were photoperiods until the autoflower gene became dominant)
I'm not a big science type - if we do get any of those types, some pictures would great
I'd also be interested to know from the people that do actually clone autoflower (and i know it's done by at least @Proph for breeding) , what would happen .. when you take a clone .. then grow it out. .. but take a clone from that .. and try and grow it out - ... how far can it go with a true auto??
Know what i mean??? ^_^
Anyway ... subbed
It would be great if we could get some botany / science guys in here to explain the (modern or original) process of making an "autoflower" and how dominant / recessive genes work and how or if they could be altered in a plant growth cycle or (as my perception goes), would need to be selected from a trait exhibited in further breeding.
My perception of a true autoflower .. is that it is on a life and death timer, and that is a gene that was dominant to ruderalis, but not dominant (or perharps even there) to photo dependant strains. (but cross bred into what were photoperiods until the autoflower gene became dominant)
I'm not a big science type - if we do get any of those types, some pictures would great
I'd also be interested to know from the people that do actually clone autoflower (and i know it's done by at least @Proph for breeding) , what would happen .. when you take a clone .. then grow it out. .. but take a clone from that .. and try and grow it out - ... how far can it go with a true auto??
Know what i mean??? ^_^
Anyway ... subbed
I have some Hindu Kush "autos" from Growers choice that have been vegging for about 9 weeks lol.
Their email response:
"I am very sorry to hear about this issue.
Auto-flowering "technology" has improved immensely throughout the years, but due to the nature of only having 10% Ruderalis in the genetics there will always be variables to the auto-flowering trait. Having a heavier presence of Ruderalis could stabilize the auto-flower trait, but will ultimately impact the potency/characteristics of the intended strain. For this reason some auto-flowers will perform similar to their original photoperiod strain and will need to be triggered into the flowering stage by decreasing the amount of light it receives.
Thank you for your understanding, and please let me know if there's anything I can do for you."
They still claim them to be autos even though they require a light change. I would have expected them to say they probably packaged the wrong seed.
I put them in the dark for 2 days and then on 12/12 lights for the past week, still not flowering. I have had problems with GC seeds before so this is the last time from them.
Their email response:
"I am very sorry to hear about this issue.
Auto-flowering "technology" has improved immensely throughout the years, but due to the nature of only having 10% Ruderalis in the genetics there will always be variables to the auto-flowering trait. Having a heavier presence of Ruderalis could stabilize the auto-flower trait, but will ultimately impact the potency/characteristics of the intended strain. For this reason some auto-flowers will perform similar to their original photoperiod strain and will need to be triggered into the flowering stage by decreasing the amount of light it receives.
Thank you for your understanding, and please let me know if there's anything I can do for you."
They still claim them to be autos even though they require a light change. I would have expected them to say they probably packaged the wrong seed.
I put them in the dark for 2 days and then on 12/12 lights for the past week, still not flowering. I have had problems with GC seeds before so this is the last time from them.
I have heard not so good things about them so I'll go with bad genetics. If you need to change the light for it to flower it's a photo. No such thing as a "semi" auto, its either a auto or it's not. That's what make a auto a auto... its automatic lol.
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