Myth Busting - Revegging Autoflowers

[CannaDaTaBiz]

I have heard not so good things about them so I'll go with nadia genetics. If you need to change the light for it to flower it's a photo. No such thing as a "semi" auto, its either a auto or it's not. That's what make a auto a auto... its automatic lol.

These "semi autos" are also known as fast strains and they have been common(bred to stable fast instead of stable autoflowering) in northern outdoor strains. For example the famous danish strain typhoon is such, they go back to at least 70's.

The thing is that when you just start to mix autos and photos, you get autos, photos and earlys, or what here was referred to as "semi-auto". Only lately wider commercial breeders have started to stabilise strains to be fast. Its just originally danish folks did this to get at least some bud during short summer, but now commercial focus is more on fast crops, but not autoflowering.

Then when low ryder came, northern folks moved more to autoflowers, because if you are even a bit more to north, you need to veg the plant inside for it to have any chance to survive until its ready, even if its one of these fast strains. Also the difference is that the outdoor strains like this have been bred to be extremely mold resistant, meaning more airy buds with more leaf and the breeding focus has been more in making the plant survive in the first place and grow big, not so much on potency.

 

[McDee]

These "semi autos" are also known as fast strains and they have been common(bred to stable fast instead of stable autoflowering) in northern outdoor strains. For example the famous danish strain typhoon is such, they go back to at least 70's.

The thing is that when you just start to mix autos and photos, you get autos, photos and earlys, or what here was referred to as "semi-auto". Only lately wider commercial breeders have started to stabilise strains to be fast. Its just originally danish folks did this to get at least some bud during short summer, but now commercial focus is more on fast crops, but not autoflowering.

Then when low ryder came, northern folks moved more to autoflowers, because if you are even a bit more to north, you need to veg the plant inside for it to have any chance to survive until its ready, even if its one of these fast strains. Also the difference is that the outdoor strains like this have been bred to be extremely mold resistant, meaning more airy buds with more leaf and the breeding focus has been more in making the plant survive in the first place and grow big, not so much on potency.

Ok, but if you need to switch the light schedule it CANT be a auto. Call it whatever you want, but it not a auto. Not hatin' just sayin'.

 

[CannaDaTaBiz]

Ok, but if you need to switch the light schedule it CANT be a auto. Call it whatever you want, but it not a auto. Not hatin' just sayin'.

Yea i think semi-auto is a silly term for such strains/phenos, but the thing that it refers to does exist is my point. There were better names for it already before someone came up with this semi-auto term for it. Its just that the whole thing is rather unknown all over the world, because no one cared about it so much and there were no potent autos you could easily do this with and get good results.

The "semi-autos" do start to show preflowers without 12/12 and begin flowering very early, but need the days to shorten as flowering continues to continue flowering properly. But even something like 16/8 would be short enough to get it flower all the way for some.

Its amyth that cannabis needs 12/12 to flower, many normal strains will start to flower with shorter amount of light than that. Even 14 hours of light is enough for some strains.

This sort of flowering pattern(not requiring 12/12) is also strong with landrace sativas near equator. "long day strains"

 

[ManWithWrench]

semi-auto sounds like a term used to cover random/poor genetics.

 

[McDee]

semi-auto sounds like a term used to cover random/poor genetics.

Nailed it!!!

 

[McDee]

Yea i think semi-auto is a silly term for such strains/phenos, but the thing that it refers to does exist is my point. There were better names for it already before someone came up with this semi-auto term for it. Its just that the whole thing is rather unknown all over the world, because no one cared about it so much and there were no potent autos you could easily do this with and get good results.

The "semi-autos" do start to show preflowers without 12/12 and begin flowering very early, but need the days to shorten as flowering continues to continue flowering properly. But even something like 16/8 would be short enough to get it flower all the way for some.

Its amyth that cannabis needs 12/12 to flower, many normal strains will start to flower with shorter amount of light than that. Even 14 hours of light is enough for some strains.

This sort of flowering pattern(not requiring 12/12) is also strong with landrace sativas near equator. "long day strains"

By definition it isnt and should have the term auto associated to it is what I'm saying. I think we all here agree that autoflowers dont need any light schedule change. That is what makes them autos. Whether its 12/12 or 14/10 that is changing the light schedule, so it's a photo period. You shouldn't use auto in its description because it incorrect. That's like calling them semi photo lol. If I see semi auto that means to me you didnt work your stuff far enough or just bad genetics all together. If you're selling you shouldn't refer to them as autos as its misleading.

 

[CannaDaTaBiz]

By definition it isnt and should have the term auto associated to it is what I'm saying. I think we all here agree that autoflowers dont need any light schedule change. That is what makes them autos. Whether its 12/12 or 14/10 that is changing the light schedule, so it's a photo period. You shouldn't use auto in its description because it incorrect. That's like calling them semi photo lol. If I see semi auto that means to me you didnt work your stuff far enough or just bad genetics all together. If you're selling you shouldn't refer to them as autos as its misleading.

They often start to flower even with vegging light hours, but dont continue doing so unless the light hours are shortened,

So they do start to autoflower(maybe not much more than preflowers if 24 lights), but dont really continue to autoflower. So technically semi-auto would be correct thing to say about them imo. Even tho i would rather just call them earlys or long day strains, or fast strains as they are sold also today. But those fast strains are not stabilised, but just F1, because with F1 you get more even gene distribution than F2 and basically make all of these sort of early/fast/whatever phenos without having to stabilise it like has been done with old northern outdoor strains since long time ago already.

 

[McDee]

They often start to flower even with vegging light hours, but dont continue doing so unless the light hours are shortened,

So they do start to autoflower(maybe not much more than preflowers if 24 lights), but dont really continue to autoflower. So technically semi-auto would be correct thing to say about them imo. Even tho i would rather just call them earlys or long day strains, or fast strains as they are sold also today. But those fast strains are not stabilised, but just F1, because with F1 you get more even gene distribution than F2 and basically make all of these sort of early/fast/whatever phenos without having to stabilise it like has been done with old northern outdoor strains since long time ago already.

Do you need to alter the light schedule?

 

[CannaDaTaBiz]

Do you need to alter the light schedule?

Not for it to start flowering. I just said that. But different strains are different. Its not just some on/off thing

 

[McDee]

Not for it to start flowering. I just said that. But different strains are different. Its not just some on/off thing

No, to grow the plant to completion do you need to change the light schedule?