Myth Busting - Revegging Autoflowers

[pop22]

As far as photos go, I had a Ducksfoot that was probably a 10th generation reveg That I grew and harvested and revegged one last time, transplanted outdoors. Both time the harvest was about the same. Now if an auto could do that..........

 

[NVbiker]

As far as photos go, I had a Ducksfoot that was probably a 10th generation reveg That I grew and harvested and revegged one last time, transplanted outdoors. Both time the harvest was about the same. Now if an auto could do that..........

That's like lantana they are considered perennial in good weather. I guess it depends in strain.

 

[Kinezokyprios]

So to everyone thinking it's possible to reveg a true auto I'm going to have to say from my experiment the double grape x silverback which is a auto f1 has new growth but only a single spot has put out a few caylaxes after 20days so if your able to reveg then you have genetics that were done incorrectly now as for clones they can and have been done the thing that sucks is they will never get as big as plant they were taken from but it is very beneficial in breeding of autos imho but otherwise isn't viable @ all. I really hate how genetics are right now very few that are real fire most are mediocre@ best imho and many of the well knows have inherit issues aswell which is why I've been breeding my own the prices and lack of available good genetics has pushed me to produce my own out of necessity and hopefully can bring them to the masses when ready.

I agree with you. The only valid case for a revegging auto is a highly stressed plant that still has its biological clock ticking and that process has a definite limit of a few weeks. Other than that only bad genetics can cause/allow revegging in an auto. You are so right that commercial breeders don't really bother to breed stable genetics and rush to the market unstable strains. And autoflower clones are good only for seed production not for bud production. It takes around sixteen closely attended generations and lots of careful selection to produce a stable true autoflower hybrid that has the traits of the original photoperiod strain. It will take roughly 3-4 years of selective breeding and lots of trial and error to make such a stable strain the natural way, even for a commercial seedbank - much more for a dedicated home grower. So in their quest for money they knowingly skip many stages of the process and bring immature strains to the market. Revegging autos is only the peak of the iceberg, there are many other very annoying side effects to this. Hermies, vastly differing phenotypes that undermine your efforts to cultivate systematically, vast differences in potency and terpine profiles etc. Very few breeders dedicate the effort and time needed...

 

[Fitzy]

So I took this thing out to really look her over and she is back in the tent but I wouldn't call this reveg it's got about a bowl pack of bud that sprouted but not vegging at all no branching ect and looks worse and worse daily now the seedling is @ day 7 or so and seems to be fine the reveg experiment is getting crispy and wilting so I think in a few day we will see it die off its just spitting out a group of hairs and odd leafs also on the same branches there are no new spots now these spots grew so I gess if u consider that reveging but my photo I just did this with showed a true reveg wat I mean is it's growing taller and making new nodes ect. Again I will keep it going to see but think it's not going to work @least in the way that was said

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[Feelfreeto]

On Facebook recently, a grower claimed that he's been re-vegging his autoflowers and that it can be done with all autos.





The alleged trick is to keep the light on 24/0 and switch back to veg nutes.

This sparked a TREMENDOUS amount of replies, with a very small percentage saying "oh yeah, we've done this too" and the majority saying "bullshit." Absolutely no one has provided any proof during any of the conversations about it however. The comment about it reverting back to the "prized photo period" was a bit of a stretch lol.

Personally I think some growers are seeing unstable autoflowers, or what's essentially a "semi-auto." Ruderal characteristics but it's still a photo by definition (needs to flip to properly finish.) We've seen it dozens of times over where growers have an auto that doesn't auto, and every time you treat it like a photo and it's good to go. So really, at that point is it still considered an autoflower? I think this is what a lot of growers are seeing when they say "oh my plant re-vegged" or "I have an autoflower mother I keep taking clones from for years," that it was sold and labeled as an autoflower, but that it's a photo dominant strain. Perhaps a bit of semantics?

I've seen autos start to push out new leaf growth at the end of their lives, but personally I take all my meds longer than normal (more amber) than probably most do, and I've yet to see them reveg. I've left autos in pots where they've eventually died (way past harvest window) and they never revegged. Doesn't explain partial harvests either.

But then we were talking about it in the staff room and @Mossy mentioned she had an auto start to reveg going from natural sunlight (outdoors) then moved inside to a grow light (and more hours on than what it was getting.) Very curious stuff.

What do you think? Ever see this phenomenon happen? Truth and merit to the claim, or stoner science? Chalked up to genetic anomaly? Or able to be replicated?

I currently have an auto that started to reveg. After harvest, I left the cut base of the plant outside of the tent for a weeksish then noticed it had new sprouts. Put it back in the tent on 24 and am about to harvest again have not changed the lighting just top dressed 1 time. Not going to be a huge harvest maybe 25% of the first but it is still blowing my mind wedding cake sprouted 6/16 first harvest 8/20 second soooon....

 

[Fitzy]

I currently have an auto that started to reveg. After harvest, I left the cut base of the plant outside of the tent for a weeksish then noticed it had new sprouts. Put it back in the tent on 24 and am about to harvest again have not changed the lighting just top dressed 1 time. Not going to be a huge harvest maybe 25% of the first but it is still blowing my mind wedding cake sprouted 6/16 first harvest 8/20 second soooon....View attachment 1247288View attachment 1247288

Mines not having it but the seedling is doing fine so I wonder if it's a quasy day neutral trait it's definitely interesting but I'm still not sure I would call it a reveg though it seems more like a oh crap I've been eaten or I've broke hurry up so we make it to next year hoping they will get pollenated. It seems urs is all by the base where the eyes are can u confirm this for me again interesting also wat strain and breeder if you don't mind sharing.

 

[Feelfreeto]

Mines not having it but the seedling is doing fine so I wonder if it's a quasy day neutral trait it's definitely interesting but I'm still not sure I would call it a reveg though it seems more like a oh crap I've been eaten or I've broke hurry up so we make it to next year hoping they will get pollenated. It seems urs is all by the base where the eyes are can u confirm this for me again interesting also wat strain and breeder if you don't mind sharing.

Yes all of the regrowth came from the base. When the regrowth started it had some tight clumping growth that was removed. I could have worked harder on the plant but I just let it do it's thing. The seed was a white label (crop king I think) wedding cake auto.

 

[Fitzy]

Yes all of the regrowth came from the base. When the regrowth started it had some tight clumping growth that was removed. I could have worked harder on the plant but I just let it do it's thing. The seed was a white label (crop king I think) wedding cake auto.

Cool bud appreciate that info I'm going to continue to experiment as I run a perpetual grow so continue to try with other aswell when ready it's interesting also bc of how I generally cut the plant that was harvested up @ the loli popped area so 7in above soil and I've never had this happen so I would like to play around a bit with them.

 

[NVbiker]

Sour sherrif harvested about a week ago.
Still out today, may need to hit it with another concoction get more veg out of it.
Left two buds on and 2 small immature nodes.
Im not getting much sun and 50s this weekend hope to have room keep experiment going.

 

[Micro.OG]

So... back in the day, I tried keeping a auto in veg state. I was successful in a sense. Before pistols showed, I took a clone. While that clone was rooting, the original plant was flowering. For the two weeks or so that it rooted, I took another clone off of it. With each clone, I was able to go a couple weeks with flowering prevented. This was the closest I ever came to keeping an auto in veg. It took a lot of work and the only real need I would see for it would be for possibly keeping a feminized strain around long enough to get the male u want in to pollinate it for a little seed stock.
I haven’t read through this thread yet, but I’m curious if anyone else has came to this conclusion with cloning autos.