Myth Busting - Revegging Autoflowers

[pop22]

alright, here's a reveg I'm growing. She's about 10 days into reveg. Blue Dragon x Shortstuff CBD Kush. So far so good!

 

[NVbiker]

Sour sherrif harvested about a week ago.
Still out today, may need to hit it with another concoction get more veg out of it.
Left two buds on and 2 small immature nodes.
Im not getting much sun and 50s this weekend hope to have room keep experiment going.

 

[pop22]

My reveg is doing good. Looks a bit N toxic so she'l get just water the feed or two. Other than that, growing more than I expected. I pinched off all new flowers as an experiment to see if it will delay longer.

 

[Fitzy]

So it seems more like wat I thought a survival mechanism of sorts kind hoping it can pass some genetic material I will get pics in morning for an interesting set of pick and to show wat happened with mine and wat I did ect I think I lends to the possibility of trying to pass it's genes can't wait to get some opinions ect on these pics I will get them up as soon as I can as it late so don't want to make a bunch of racket and wake people up lol.

 

[Itisi]

On Facebook recently, a grower claimed that he's been re-vegging his autoflowers and that it can be done with all autos.





The alleged trick is to keep the light on 24/0 and switch back to veg nutes.

This sparked a TREMENDOUS amount of replies, with a very small percentage saying "oh yeah, we've done this too" and the majority saying "bullshit." Absolutely no one has provided any proof during any of the conversations about it however. The comment about it reverting back to the "prized photo period" was a bit of a stretch lol.

Personally I think some growers are seeing unstable autoflowers, or what's essentially a "semi-auto." Ruderal characteristics but it's still a photo by definition (needs to flip to properly finish.) We've seen it dozens of times over where growers have an auto that doesn't auto, and every time you treat it like a photo and it's good to go. So really, at that point is it still considered an autoflower? I think this is what a lot of growers are seeing when they say "oh my plant re-vegged" or "I have an autoflower mother I keep taking clones from for years," that it was sold and labeled as an autoflower, but that it's a photo dominant strain. Perhaps a bit of semantics?

I've seen autos start to push out new leaf growth at the end of their lives, but personally I take all my meds longer than normal (more amber) than probably most do, and I've yet to see them reveg. I've left autos in pots where they've eventually died (way past harvest window) and they never revegged. Doesn't explain partial harvests either.

But then we were talking about it in the staff room and @Mossy mentioned she had an auto start to reveg going from natural sunlight (outdoors) then moved inside to a grow light (and more hours on than what it was getting.) Very curious stuff.

What do you think? Ever see this phenomenon happen? Truth and merit to the claim, or stoner science? Chalked up to genetic anomaly? Or able to be replicated?

I can't remember the breeder, but I grew some ultra lemon something or other, that was touted as a semi-auto. It flowered when forced with 10 hrs dark cycle.

If you can reveg it by increasing light cycle, then that's photo response. It ain't an auto.

 

[Son of Hobbes]

So I was sitting lost in thought in one of the flower rooms yesterday, and I thought to myself "I wonder if the process that the phytochrome pigment uses to send the biological signal to the plant to flower is the same in autoflowers?" That if you put an autoflower in a length of significant darkness, like 12/12, for an extended period of time (which IMO is the plant getting into it's circadian rhythm,) then put the plant BACK into an environment with more light hours on (trying to put back into veg,) if that would signal the plant to try to reveg (basically overriding the autoflowering?)

Stoner thoughts.

 

[WildBill]

So I was sitting lost in thought in one of the flower rooms yesterday, and I thought to myself "I wonder if the process that the phytochrome pigment uses to send the biological signal to the plant to flower is the same in autoflowers?" That if you put an autoflower in a length of significant darkness, like 12/12, for an extended period of time (which IMO is the plant getting into it's circadian rhythm,) then put the plant BACK into an environment with more light hours on (trying to put back into veg,) if that would signal the plant to try to reveg (basically overriding the autoflowering?)

Stoner thoughts.

.Crazy in the directions of thought process have you?

 

[Fitzy]

So I was sitting lost in thought in one of the flower rooms yesterday, and I thought to myself "I wonder if the process that the phytochrome pigment uses to send the biological signal to the plant to flower is the same in autoflowers?" That if you put an autoflower in a length of significant darkness, like 12/12, for an extended period of time (which IMO is the plant getting into it's circadian rhythm,) then put the plant BACK into an environment with more light hours on (trying to put back into veg,) if that would signal the plant to try to reveg (basically overriding the autoflowering?)

Stoner thoughts.

I can try this starting today if people are interested as I had to put 1 in my photo setup it's been in there for 2wks tomaro lmk and I'm about to get pics of the double grape x silverback up in a bit

 

[Son of Hobbes]

I can try this starting today if people are interested as I had to put 1 in my photo setup it's been in there for 2wks tomaro lmk and I'm about to get pics of the double grape x silverback up in a bit

Reason I thought about it was @Mossy saying she had an auto reveg taking it from outside (less hours on) to indoors (under an LED with more light hours on.) If it's possible to trigger/manipulate certain hormones (which we know we can manipulate to an extent,) maybe that's a step towards understanding what could be happening.

 

[pop22]

I have had autos that didn't want to, that I put on 12//12 for a week them sent them back to 24/0 and they continued to flower. I've also had some that were put into 12/12 shortly before they flowered and they did almost as well as the 24/0 plants! Go figure........ but maybe it could work. I was just reading a bit on photo-chemical processes in plants and it's WAY more complicated than most of us know. My head's still spinning from that read lol. There are compounds to enhance the process, compounds to reduce damage from too much ;light ( which most plants experience every day outdoors ).
And so on. And then that's just one process we are discussing out of??? thousands? tens of thousands?? Would love to see a funded study of the autoflower process, I bet it's fascinating!

So I was sitting lost in thought in one of the flower rooms yesterday, and I thought to myself "I wonder if the process that the phytochrome pigment uses to send the biological signal to the plant to flower is the same in autoflowers?" That if you put an autoflower in a length of significant darkness, like 12/12, for an extended period of time (which IMO is the plant getting into it's circadian rhythm,) then put the plant BACK into an environment with more light hours on (trying to put back into veg,) if that would signal the plant to try to reveg (basically overriding the autoflowering?)

Stoner thoughts.