Indoor Maybe I was expecting too much... anyway, onward and forward!

[Corum59]

1 email, and time to do shit... I dont expect it will make much difference to the overall weight and quality, but.... well, a mans gotta do what a mans gotta do.

So I did what I had to do.

the results"
in order, grow bags ready for the balcony, the mess, Gorilla cookies, Forbidden Runtz.





I dont expect that this is going to be a happy final weight, I am going to guesstimate max total about 180 grms Max, which is far below my aim for this grow and my standard for photo's.

but it is what it is, total costs are running around 380 euro for this grow, ( I should add here that, some costs will be offset from a 2nd grow, 3 seeds, some soil, nutes etc and 1 time costs, but i work grow to grow) so IF I manage to gain 120g (wishfull thinking?) from these 2 and the 63g already jarred and curing, I am looking at around 2eur a gram... hopefully..... 3 eur pg would be the worse.... I hope.... if my adding and division is upto scratch....better than 5 eur a gram at the coffee shop I guess.
However time will tell and now I have to wait, clean up and get on with life.



vacuumed, cleaned up and hanging like the condemned. been a bit rushed this morning so forgive the pic quality.

 

[Corum59]

So thats it untill dried and jarred..

A couple of weeks in the dark, well aired and ventilated tent, should be about right, then clear away, wait a few days for visitors to be gone and backup and ready for run 2 of Auto's.

I will definitely run more of The Gorilla Cookies, and try STS for a male and see if I can produce some seeds. My Coloidal silver attempt failed miserably.

Startup and running costs will be very low on the next run as much is already offset on this one... so that's good.
Soil, some nutes, etc is all sitting around waiting.....
I go back to plastic buckets too, I prefer them to the large grow bags, easier to manipulate in the tent and easier on the old back. I am pretty sure the root ball in the large bags only takes up about 1/2 the available space. and the evaporation from the grow bags seems excessive to me and is probably to blame for high rH.

There will, as always, be some additional costs or changes... that's just how it goes.

However, the plan is to be around one Euro a gram at the end of the grow.

New grow startup cost​	​	​
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pack of 5 Gorilla cookies ​	€ 22.00​	​
1 10ltr pack perlite ​	€ 8.00​	​
biobizz bio-bloom 1 ltr ​	€ 10.00​	​
https://www.laboratoriumdiscounter.nl/en/silver-nitrate-999-extra-pure.html​	€ 17.00​	?​
https://www.laboratoriumdiscounter.nl/en/sodium-thiosulfate-99-pure.html​	€ 9.00​	?​
Spray and bottles​	€ 20.00​	?​
shipping cost all.​	​	?​
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Total​	€ 86.00​	​
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Electricity @ 55 cents pkwh​	​	​
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Total​	​	​

 

[throxic]

Hope they taste good for ya! Look forward to the next one.

 

[Corum59]

Hope they taste good for ya! Look forward to the next one.

Thanks, and thanks for the Rep stuff. they look ok and smell ok... so thats a plus, small, light, but a high learning curve.

 

[MedCzech]

Hey

Just read through your grow, IMO you will need to upgrade your lights to get better results. It looks like your skills to grow are just fine, but those plants should have yielded much more and been healthier along the way.
A Mars TS1000 would do way better than that, and they aren’t too pricey at all. There are many LED lights out there that would do the trick.

You will see, the same exact conditions with a new light will more than double your yield

 

[Corum59]

Hey

Just read through your grow, IMO you will need to upgrade your lights to get better results. It looks like your skills to grow are just fine, but those plants should have yielded much more and been healthier along the way.
A Mars TS1000 would do way better than that, and they aren’t too pricey at all. There are many LED lights out there that would do the trick.

You will see, the same exact conditions with a new light will more than double your yield

That is very probably true, But I am attached to this lamp, you know self build and all that and it worked fine for my photo grows in general, I am aware of how outdated they are though.

I will keep it in mind and I do/have thoughts about upgrading many times... or maybe just opt for a couple horticultural cobs and see how they work out... choices, choices, decisions, decisions...

I do wonder though, what would say is wrong with cobs, compared to the ts1000?

I think my ppfd map is pretty good as far as i am aware, I certainly get a quite equal spread across my 70x70 , i didnt pump it up above 240w on this grow, although I have hit 320w on my photo grows ( when electricty was affordable).

Damn, thats quite a man cave you setup....

I do wish we were not been fucked by the world on gas and energy prices, not that I have the space for a man cave like that, but we can have dreams I guess.

 

[Corum59]

Nothing definitive about this check, but it runs inline with my other grows.

The bucket has full root ball growth as expected almost to the point of being root bound.

The grow bags 28x28x30 have a smaller root ball and the outer 5-6 cm of medium all around is dry as hell, even with 4 drippers to each pot!
I have noticed this on my other grows (which I watered by hand or with a circular drip feeder), even though I try to be sure that the whole bag gets even water distribution.

I feel that the dry area is mostly down to overly fast evaporation, as its all to the outside of the bags and pretty equal all around.
Its possible that my bags are just too big,
Obviously there are no roots in the dry area so that's just wasted space, the drippers were spaced in the bags about 6cm from the outer edge, 8cm to the middle in order to offer fairly equal distribution across the whole bag area, obviously that didnt work as well as expected in the bags, but was perfect in the bucket.

Maybe smaller bags 19x19 can then run 2x2, 3x2 or even 3x3 sog, or maybe buckets are the way to go????

in order:
bucket, bucket, bag, bag, bag the bag shot are with the dry medium just falling away as its bone dry, the middle area is nicely damp.

 

[Corum59]

5 new " Private label" Gorilla Cookie seeds have arrived, ordered yesterday from Dutch-headshop, now have 8 GC seeds for the next grow.

Later today I get a delivery of Perlite and some flower nutes Plagron-Algae-bloom also ardered yesterday.

then I am all set for the next grow, just have to wait a week or two for some people to come and go and then get cracking.

Would be nice to get a couple of days of nice weather so I can clean everything and mix the medium on the balcony without freezing my ass off, but, what will be will be.

The drying from this grow is still ongoing, so nothing much to do but plan ahead, daydream and watch the football.

 

[Corum59]

So I know, I have no finesse, I grab the branch in one hand and with 3 fingers holding tight to the branch just at the base of the buds and pull, then throw it into the bowl for weighing, you know, because, well, its not a great grow and I am not happy with it, but hey, it is what it is, and its better than nothing... and to be honest, this is how I do it even if its a great grow...

The last Forbibben Runtz will take a couple more days.

In the jar, I expect the humidity to rise to 60-61 over the next few hours, so, a few burps over the next week should get it right in the window.

 

[Corum59]

should have jarred this yesterday, it's been cold and humid but that didnt slow the drying process. probably because they are so light and airy... and sticky, so that's a plus.

The final Forbidden Runtz..





and the final score

pretty bad, but a lot cheaper than the local coffee shops worse weed.
I think I should clarify that a lot of the expenses are one time things, and will not be repeated, so there is that I guess..........

2023 Auto run costs ​	​	​
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https://www.dutch-headshop.eu/auto-gorilla-cookies-cannabis-seeds-private-label x5 eur 22​	€ 22.00​	​
https://www.dutch-headshop.eu/forbidden-runtz-auto-cannabis-seeds-fast-buds x5​	€ 55.00​	​
3 coco blocks - soaked and expanded in full dose nutes.​	€ 3.00​	​
4 way drip system on 2 rear or all 4 pots?​	€ 12.00​	​
Bio nutes, do I need nutes with good soil?????​	€ 10.00​	​
2 x 40ltr soil + 1x 10ltr​	€ 11.00​	​
2 x10ltr perlite​	€ 16.00​	​
Cal-mag, jic​	€ 5.00​	​
Root stim​	€ 12.00​	​
Ph testers/meter​	€ 17.00​	​
colloidal silver​	€ 18.00​	​
60 paper cups​	€ 2.00​	​
pack soak pads​	€ 1.00​	​
Door vent​	€ 13.00​	​
under trays x4​	€ 18.00​	​
activated carbon​	€ 28.00​	​
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total​	€ 243.00​	​
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Electricity 345KWh @ 0.44 Eur pKw​	€ 151.00​	​
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total ​	€ 394.00​	​
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Forbidden Runtz 1&2​	63​	​
Firbidden Runts 3​	73​	​
Gorilla Cookies​	77​	​
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total​	213​	​
cost per gram​	€ 1.85​	​
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