MarsHydro Live Section

[MediScrogs]

I live in a small town and noboby will think that I'am using an led light to grow vegetables or light my fish tank!

Do you live on the Isle of Man?

 

[MediScrogs]

 

[MediScrogs]

I live in a small town and noboby will think that I'am using an led light to grow vegetables or light my fish tank!

Of course this looks bad, nobody wants to receive a box that is plastered with prominent stickers describing the wattage of their new light.

 

[briman]

Just tell em its a new bug zapper!

 

[MediScrogs]

Yeah, like people that drive their car around with a big air freshener hangin in front from the rear view mirror.

Big sign says:

HEY, MY CAR STINKS!

 

[Corgy]

Corgy I have a 29 gallon tank with a programable 300w pendant light suspended above. You need par to get good light penetration in water. Taller tanks take 900 watts and greater. Leds are more prevalent now and the technology is spreading rapidly. I had two tents bought in via barge. The dispatcher called my work and left a message my grow tents were in. That is bullshit times infinity. I live in a community of 3 fing thousand people.

Yes, I am aware of that, I have 3 fishtanks, 2 of them with LED. The TMC AguaRay line(GroBeam).

A 600w or 900w plus LED for an aquarium is about as likely as Donald Trump being made an honorary citizen of Mexico City .

 

[Corgy]

- For the stickers that shows "LED LIGHT", we however cannot move it. As Mossy has posted my message here, we need to declare the goods when we export to US and pay the custom tax for you guys. That is why you don't need to pay any custom tax and VAT.

Oh really....... , that happens to be the way every company exporting works, they pay the duties and other costs, include it in their product price calculations and they are passed on to the buyer, without any bleating about we are charitable company that pay the customs tax for you guys.............but beating around the bush and weaving about postal stickers, customs and what not seem to be the way to deflect attention to the real issue, namely that contrary to what has been promised, boxes are sent out marked/with stickers that clearly identifies the content in the box.

It doesn't matter what people that see the identification think, aquarium, curing, grow, if they decide to act on the knowledge regardless of what is actually inside the box, the receiver is on the radars screen, and it could be games up for canna growers, and at best merely an inconvenience for tomato growers and fish keepers and such if they were to be visited by the police or worse by someone intent on the spoils of war.

 

[Son of Hobbes]

Can you guarantee us that non of your customers have got in trouble because of you? I will answer for you, no you cannot.

No company can guarantee that Tang, not even Grow Northern. Label or no label.

Here's some food for thought: packages become lost in transit and damaged in shipment quite a bit when it comes to postal/carrier services; wouldn't matter how discrete your cardboard box is if a chunk of the box gets shredded; or falls from a vertical distance and breaks (or busts open,) gets wet and has to be retaped, gets left at someone else address, etc etc. Should we be making cases against companies for not packing their products in strong enough cardboard boxes based on the small percentage of filed claims for damaged/lost product? Maybe I should write a letter to 3M and tell them their packing tape they make is garbage and wasn't strong enough to hold my LED grow light in place during shipment, so now my mail man knows I grow. Point is; "what if" scenarios may help prevent problems in the future; but it's not guaranteed and without logic and rationale, it's just wild speculation.

I received my Mars II 1600W light in the mail and it was completely unmarked, by the way.

Mars II 1600W 5W LED - "Pictures of the Light!"

F-R-A-G-I-L-E... it must be italian! I thought the overall package of the shipping box was very discreet. No images or logos to be seen aside from the Fedex shipping label and what appears to be maybe a Chinese freight/shipping label. Nothing to indicate it's a grow light. In fact, the shipping label doesn't even have Mars Hydro on it, just a return address.



I thought it was packaged very well. Very stout/sturdy foam. Not styrofoam.

Tina has given her response; it's up to you as consumers as to whether you think it's fair or want to purchase their lights.

 

[TaNg]

Oh really....... , that happens to be the way every company exporting works, they pay the duties and other costs, include it in their product price calculations and they are passed on to the buyer, without any bleating about we are charitable company that pay the customs tax for you guys.............but beating around the bush and weaving about postal stickers, customs and what not seem to be the way to deflect attention to the real issue, namely that contrary to what has been promised, boxes are sent out marked/with stickers that clearly identifies the content in the box.

It doesn't matter what people that see the identification think, aquarium, curing, grow, if they decide to act on the knowledge regardless of what is actually inside the box, the receiver is on the radars screen, and it could be games up for canna growers, and at best merely an inconvenience for tomato growers and fish keepers and such if they were to be visited by the police or worse by someone intent on the spoils of war.

Agreed,its the dishonesty that's most alarming here not only with the packaging but offering free lights via personal message for good reviews. I remember chatting to Muddy before he left over Mars coming on board about how we both thought Mars were here a long time before they were sponsors and were Personal messaging members then, this was just speculation but we agreed on it. We also discussed there old warranty https://www.autoflower.org/index.php?threads/topled-warrenty-warning.33552/ it's been amended now but shows there caliber.

 

[Corgy]

No company can guarantee that Tang, not even Grow Northern. Label or no label.

Here's some food for thought: packages become lost in transit and damaged in shipment quite a bit when it comes to postal/carrier services; wouldn't matter how discrete your cardboard box is if a chunk of the box gets shredded; or falls from a vertical distance and breaks (or busts open,) gets wet and has to be retaped, gets left at someone else address, etc etc. Should we be making cases against companies for not packing their products in strong enough cardboard boxes based on the small percentage of filed claims for damaged/lost product? Maybe I should write a letter to 3M and tell them their packing tape they make is garbage and wasn't strong enough to hold my LED grow light in place during shipment, so now my mail man knows I grow. Point is; "what if" scenarios may help prevent problems in the future; but it's not guaranteed and without logic and rationale, it's just wild speculation.

I received my Mars II 1600W light in the mail and it was completely unmarked, by the way.



Tina has given her response; it's up to you as consumers as to whether you think it's fair or want to purchase their lights.

Well said........very true, accidents can and will happen, all risk management is about reducing the possibility of accidents happening.

Given the consequences I personally face if caught, loosing my house, never mind the grow gear being confiscated, fines, estimated taxes on estimated grow amount and estimated profit, being registered, etc., I have a very strong interest in reducing ANY chances of drawing any attention.

In the Netherlands, there has and is cases being reported(and many more no doubt unreported) of Hells Angels types paying visits to grow shops and requesting customer details to be deployed for a dash of blackmail, extortion and worse. I don't need to have to worry about a delivery person supplying and/or acting on information that was promised to be hidden inside the box and not being displayed outside the box.

@TaNg , well said too.

So summa summarum, trust has been lost, and the thinly disguised attempts to deflect and trivialize the problem has not helped.