NEWS Marlboro to buy Cannabis Company

[Dichoti]

Ya, I know some people wont want to, there will be other companies. I would support them over tobacco that's all. I dont blame anyone who wants to get in to the industry, only problem i have with them is they are liars. They put money over people's health, and that ain't ok. If they would have said hey this aren't good for you and they are very addictive then I wouldnt hold them to the coals. I dont trust what they say, and I dont want people to associate cannabis with tobacco. I have had people say to me that smoke causes cancer, not true it's the nicotine and formaldehyde and all the other shit they put in. So some already do. I dont think your a rep for them bud not hatin' lol. Just be careful what you wish for, you may just get it. I'm sure its irrelevant and they will be at the top in the end, money is what make the world go round. I just hope I dont see them on here.

The association between smoking marijuana and lung cancer remains unclear. Marijuana smoke contains about 50% more benzopyrene and nearly 75% more benzanthracene, both known carcinogens, than a comparable quantity of unfiltered tobacco smoke (Tashkin, 2013). Moreover, the deeper inhalations and longer breath-holding of marijuana smokers result in greater exposure of the lung to the tar and carcinogens in the smoke. Lung biopsies from habitual marijuana-only users have revealed widespread alterations to the tissue, some of which are recognized as precursors to the subsequent development of cancer (Tashkin, 2013).

On the other hand, several well-designed and large-scale studies, including one in Washington State (Rosenblatt et al, 2004), have failed to find any increased risk of lung or upper airway cancer in people who have smoked marijuana (Mehra et al, 2006; Tashkin, 2013), and studies assessing the association between marijuana use and cancer risk have many limitations, including concomitant tobacco use and the relatively small number of long-term heavy users – particularly older users. Therefore, even though population-based studies have generally failed to show increased cancer risk, no study has definitively ruled out the possibility that some individuals, especially heavier marijuana users, may incur an elevated risk of cancer. This risk appears to be smaller than for tobacco, yet is important to consider when weighing the benefits and risks of smoking marijuana. (Tashkin DP, 2013). More research on marijuana smoking and cancer is needed.

Two other conditions of concern, bullous lung disease (abnormal airspaces in the lungs caused by damage to the lung walls) and pneumothorax (“collapsed lung”), have not been definitively linked to marijuana smoke either (Tam et al, 2006). Several studies have found evidence of a possible association (Beshay et al, 2007; Hii et al, 2008; Reece, 2008), however, many of these studies featured 10 or fewer study subjects, some of whom also smoked tobacco. The research remains unclear.

From: http://adai.uw.edu/marijuana/factsheets/respiratoryeffects.htm
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Not trying to start an argument. I googled "known carcinogens in marijuana smoke" and that was one of the pages that showed up.

Marlboro and other big companies investing their time and money into legalization is good. They can help make it happen quicker than millions of NORML petitions could, Because they'll keep on lining pockets until it's legal, and they can make billion$ more...

...Will I buy Marlboro's weed? HELL NO.

 

[McDee]

That is the entire cannabis industry at current state. Pathogen and mold testing, potency testing, etc, it's all a huge mess and no one really cares. Money money money!

That is not ok either, I dont live in a rec state yet so dont deal with them. I wont buy from anyone ever again I make all my own stuff and do t see that changing ever. There is no shortage of people putting money above others that's for sure. All I can do is not support them when I know the truth about them. I can tell you I will never support tobacco tho. I do believe that every adult of sound mind has the right to use it, not saying that but I will not play ball with them.

 

[McDee]

The association between smoking marijuana and lung cancer remains unclear. Marijuana smoke contains about 50% more benzopyrene and nearly 75% more benzanthracene, both known carcinogens, than a comparable quantity of unfiltered tobacco smoke (Tashkin, 2013). Moreover, the deeper inhalations and longer breath-holding of marijuana smokers result in greater exposure of the lung to the tar and carcinogens in the smoke. Lung biopsies from habitual marijuana-only users have revealed widespread alterations to the tissue, some of which are recognized as precursors to the subsequent development of cancer (Tashkin, 2013).

On the other hand, several well-designed and large-scale studies, including one in Washington State (Rosenblatt et al, 2004), have failed to find any increased risk of lung or upper airway cancer in people who have smoked marijuana (Mehra et al, 2006; Tashkin, 2013), and studies assessing the association between marijuana use and cancer risk have many limitations, including concomitant tobacco use and the relatively small number of long-term heavy users – particularly older users. Therefore, even though population-based studies have generally failed to show increased cancer risk, no study has definitively ruled out the possibility that some individuals, especially heavier marijuana users, may incur an elevated risk of cancer. This risk appears to be smaller than for tobacco, yet is important to consider when weighing the benefits and risks of smoking marijuana. (Tashkin DP, 2013). More research on marijuana smoking and cancer is needed.

Two other conditions of concern, bullous lung disease (abnormal airspaces in the lungs caused by damage to the lung walls) and pneumothorax (“collapsed lung”), have not been definitively linked to marijuana smoke either (Tam et al, 2006). Several studies have found evidence of a possible association (Beshay et al, 2007; Hii et al, 2008; Reece, 2008), however, many of these studies featured 10 or fewer study subjects, some of whom also smoked tobacco. The research remains unclear.

From: http://adai.uw.edu/marijuana/factsheets/respiratoryeffects.htm
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Not trying to start an argument. I googled "known carcinogens in marijuana smoke" and that was one of the pages that showed up.

Marlboro and other big companies investing their time and money into legalization is good. They can help make it happen quicker than millions of NORML petitions could, Because they'll keep on lining pockets until it's legal, and they can make billion$ more...

...Will I buy Marlboro's weed? HELL NO.

Yes, you will find studies that show both side. I am not a scientist not trying to claim to be, inhaling smoke is not beneficial to the lung. All the added shit to tobacco and its filters are what separates it for me. You can never smoke a thing and still get lung cancer all kinds a crap in the air. Smoke test for me says a lot. It's a different kind of smoke. I dont smoke flower anymore just rosin, it's a different kind of smoke. I tried to smoke a bowl the other day and couldn't just cough to much tastes like an ashtray to me now. I have had a vaporizer for about 10yrs I am aware for my lungs so I get it. I dont hold hits like I use to cause it may do more damage. My big issue with them is trust, I dont trust them. I dont think we need them would it happen faster sure it would. Faster isnt always better, so no rush for me. I would think most folks from here aren't going to buy anyway, most would grow their own I would think. No worries bud just healthy debate, if everyone thought the same way it would be pretty boring lol. I see why some people would want their help, they maybe the most powerful industry in the world. We sit at 64% of the states with medical and 20% have rec. I don't think its going to stop, so do we need them to make it happen?

Edit - healthy not health lol

 

[Dichoti]

Yes, you will find studies that show both side. I am not a scientist not trying to claim to be, inhaling smoke is not beneficial to the lung. All the added shit to tobacco and its filters are what separates it for me. You can never smoke a thing and still get lung cancer all kinds a crap in the air. Smoke test for me says a lot. It's a different kind of smoke. I dont smoke flower anymore just rosin, it's a different kind of smoke. I tried to smoke a bowl the other day and couldn't just cough to much tastes like an ashtray to me now. I have had a vaporizer for about 10yrs I am aware for my lungs so I get it. I dont hold hits like I use to cause it may do more damage. My big issue with them is trust, I dont trust them. I dont think we need them would it happen faster sure it would. Faster isnt always better, so no rush for me. I would think most folks from here aren't going to buy anyway, most would grow their own I would think. No worries bud just healthy debate, if everyone thought the same way it would be pretty boring lol. I see why some people would want their help, they maybe the most powerful industry in the world. We sit at 64% of the states with medical and 20% have rec. I don't think its going to stop, so do we need them to make it happen?

Edit - healthy not health lol

I mean, They (or someone) got a hold of the newest Kennedy in office and made him do a 180 on his stance, and Both Sessions are out of jobs, So it would be a matter of time either way.

In all actuality, It seems that the only way to partake without causing some sort of harm to yourself (minor or major) is (clean) oils and edibles. I actually smoke 50% of the time, and vape the rest.

 

[McDee]

I mean, They (or someone) got a hold of the newest Kennedy in office and made him do a 180 on his stance, and Both Sessions are out of jobs, So it would be a matter of time either way.

In all actuality, It seems that the only way to partake without causing some sort of harm to yourself (minor or major) is (clean) oils and edibles. I actually smoke 50% of the time, and vape the rest.

Amen, I am about to start a mostly honey tincture. Want to give lungs a break some. Dont want coconut oil anymore to much fat for me. Going to infuse rosin into honey with mbm2 and just take that maybe 1 or 2 dabs when wake up then take honey rest if day into a nighttime honey.

 

[Dichoti]

Amen, I am about to start a mostly honey tincture. Want to give lungs a break some. Dont want coconut oil anymore to much fat for me. Going to infuse rosin into honey with mbm2 and just take that maybe 1 or 2 dabs when wake up then take honey rest if day into a nighttime honey.

I need to find a recipe for that...

 

[McDee]

I need to find a recipe for that...

I dont want any alcohol, to strong flavor. You can infuse from bud, but wont be as potent I'm told. If I decarb rosin and blend it will work good I do with coconut oil. Doesnt need to stick to fat just be blended well. 2 cups honey some distilled water think its 1/4 cup have to look and 8g of rosin, more if you like but 1g per 1/4 cup is 4-5 strong doses for me. Blend in mbm and good to go. After I make I will let you know how it worked.

 

[MissUniverse]

This is nothing new... big tobacco has had their hand in cannabis for anlong time... think about those rolling papers you use, how about those blunts you roll... what about those glass pieces you use. Or those vapes you use. They mostly are or were subsidized, funded by or owned by big tobacco or other big conglomerates...

 

[MrOldBoy]

I mean, They (or someone) got a hold of the newest Kennedy in office and made him do a 180 on his stance, and Both Sessions are out of jobs, So it would be a matter of time either way.

In all actuality, It seems that the only way to partake without causing some sort of harm to yourself (minor or major) is (clean) oils and edibles. I actually smoke 50% of the time, and vape the rest.

Correct .... everything that kills me makes me feel alive.

 

[MordecaiAlliVanAllenOshea]

I dunno, I bet they don't have much better morals when you compare "boards of directors". They both murder daily, one directly and one indirectly, they both try to market an inferior product for a cheaper price to gain market share, and they ultimately are just greedy bastards after money. It's what's wrong with a lot of the world, in this case it is just major companies and horrific organizations getting to compete for airtime on CNN. One is the news and one is the commercial filler in between. They should simply decriminalize cannabis and let us flood the "market"=our friends, with free homegrown organic weed, piss on Marlboro and Coors, at least the craft producers will thrive in places like Oregon, Washington, Colorado, etc. just like the micro brewers do with beer, for the people who can afford $15-20 a gram for pretty much the same thing we can grow at home for a fraction of that.

That's a huge part of why I also keep wanting to find people who wants to start a sliding scale dispensary, so people can pay what they can really afford. And have all the flower be outdoor grown, mostly organic, and provided by growers who LOVE TO GROW and just want to share that with people who need it, not people looking to make millions because they think it it cool.

If you are a regulatory agency or an investor though, it makes perfect sense. The tobacco companies already have the network in place to market, distribute, and sell a highly regulated product. They also have deep enough pockets to get the smaller start ups off of the ground and into the kind of production full legalization would probably entail. The booze companies are in the same position and they too are dipping their toes in the cannabis market.

Remember, acceptance and legality is what we've wanted for 60+ years. The illegal market is huge and somebody is going to step in to fill it. Right now its being filled by the Mexican cartels, I'm pretty sure even the tobacco companies are better than that.