New Grower LST- better before or after watering?

[teaparty]

Does LST work easier when the plant is watered (stem is softer, easier to bend due to having water inside?), or when the plant is thirsty? (plant has less vigor and stem is more bendable?) ?

 

[TomAuto]

I dont think it makes a difference. .

 

[Dr. Babnik]

Does LST work easier when the plant is watered (stem is softer, easier to bend due to having water inside?), or when the plant is thirsty? (plant has less vigor and stem is more bendable?) ?

How do you do LTS? It scares med to bend and maniputate stems. I can feel stems snap between my fingers without touching or eve being in the same room as the plants.

 

[HashMaster]

Maybe just a personal preference, but I vote for after water...

@Dr. Babnik , dont do any reading on HST (also called super cropping) or you may have nightmares !

 

[Dr. Babnik]

Maybe just a personal preference, but I vote for after water...

@Dr. Babnik , dont do any reading on HST (also called super cropping) or you may have nightmares !

I did and got nightmares.
Only thing I dare to do is tying down some branches to get more light down tomthe lower flowers.
I read about it coz I can foresee problems with size and and room for Automazar. I have 3 happy seedlings in the veg tent. When I have had my first harvest of Super Skunk and White Widow, my led goes to the seedlings. Currently I keep my seedlings under 250W cfl. The flowers have 250W cfl and 300W led.

Have a look on my update, Master.
https://www.autoflower.org/threads/...on-super-skunk-grow.52434/page-2#post-1050016

 

[TomAuto]

I kinda prefer a version of HST....the nice thing about "crushing" the stem before you bend it in HST is that you won't actually break the stem, un-like bending or LST where the stem could actually snap right off...the crushing of the stem prevent snapping , thats the whole idea of it....I actual belive its less stress for the plant to supercrop.

Now what I'll do is crush the stem near what would be about half the height of the plant, and fold the stem back over onto itself and tie the lead tip right to the base of the plant with a paper clip or twist ties, zip ties whatever, pipe cleaners are a real good one. basically so its like a double stem, the main lead will correct and grow upwards again.

 

[Dr. Babnik]

I kinda prefer a version of HST....the nice thing about "crushing" the stem before you bend it in HST is that you won't actually break the stem, un-like bending or LST where the stem could actually snap right off...the crushing of the stem prevent snapping , thats the whole idea of it....I actual belive its less stress for the plant to supercrop.

Now what I'll do is crush the stem near what would be about half the height of the plant, and fold the stem back over onto itself and tie the lead tip right to the base of the plant with a paper clip or twist ties, zip ties whatever, pipe cleaners are a real good one. basically so its like a double stem, the main lead will correct and grow upwards again.

It gives me nightmares...
But sounds interesting. Got any pics on how you do it?

 

[TomAuto]

It gives me nightmares...
But sounds interesting. Got any pics on how you do it?

lets say your plant is 12 inches tall and just starting to hit that stretch , pick a spot about 7 inches up the stem and really crush it with your fingers, pinch the heck out of that stem until its all pulpy feeling,you may need to work up and down a whole internode length, so you can bend it any which way you want to....and just fold that gal right over and make her grab her ankles.

on a thick stem you may need to use a tool, a wrench of sorts with electric tape wrapped around the "teeth" is a handy tool..

another reason I think its less stress is you do it once and its done,,,LST you are always fugging with it.

 

[Dr. Babnik]

lets say your plant is 12 inches tall and just starting to hit that stretch , pick a spot about 7 inches up the stem and really crush it with your fingers, pinch the heck out of that stem until its all pulpy feeling,you may need to work up and down a whole internode length, so you can bend it any which way you want to....and just fold that gal right over and make her grab her ankles.

on a thick stem you may need to use a tool, a wrench of sorts with electric tape wrapped around the "teeth" is a handy tool..

another reason I think its less stress is you do it once and its done,,,LST you are always fugging with it.

I supercropped a small White Widow I have. She haven't showed signs of suffering.

WW #2 - p1 - Supercropped

• Dr. Babnik
• May 16, 2016

And after 24 hrs.

WW #2, late day 62, p2

• Dr. Babnik
• May 17, 2016

 

[stepside]

Bending or manipulating when dry can be dangerous, always better on hydrated plants. Not necessarily right after watering but after or when the plant is hydrated