New Grower LST- better before or after watering?

Here's a little blurb

Supercropping is a term given to a group of techniques that, when used in conjunction, will produce greatly improved yields over untreated plants. Various methods can be used when supercropping, and they are outlined below.
You can use one or all methods of supercropping, modified to your individual needs. The end result is an increased yield.

Crimping
Crimping is an advanced technique whereby you break the inner herd of the plant without damaging the outer, which is where all the plants strength comes from. Break open the stalk of a cannabis plant and you'll notice immediately the hard, outer herd. This is where textiles come from. The soft inner, lighter colored material is pure cellulose - the phloem and xylem.


In vascular plants, phloem is the living tissue that carries organic nutrients, particularly sucrose, a sugar, to all parts of the plant where needed. In trees, the phloem is the innermost layer of the bark, hence the name, derived from the Greek word φλοιος (phloios) for "bark". The phloem is mainly concerned with the transport of glucose and starch made during photosynthesis.

The plant passes water and nutrients cell to cell through this network of cellulose. Breaking the plant's inner walls will cause it to rebuild. But it rebuilds these networks better than they were before; it rebuilds so fast (under good growth conditions) that 24 hours later the plant is using the new highways and it's increased capacity for moving water and nutrients.

This technique can begin as early as the seedling stage. Twisting the plant gently, using both hands so you don't pull on it's roots. Work each of the plants branches every 2", up to once week. Do this by grasping the spot to be treated with two fingers of each hand. Use one hand to stabilize, while the other gently, slowly twists. Or you can twist with both hands in opposite directions, slowly until you feel a slight snap. When the plant's get heartier you will actually be able to hear it.
On smaller branches, you do not need to twist, as firm finger pressure will rupture the herd.
 
What is the best time for starting LST?
My Alien has 3 nodes now and the stem is very soft snd flexible. I bent the plant, an "it" as sex is not yet expressed, a little, to se how flexible she is; if I wanted, I could probably tie a knot on her, without snapping the stem.

I could easily bend it over and tie it to the pot. The question is the timing, the optimal timing for LTS. I want to do LTS before i go for supercropping. Have to wait and observe the development my White Widow, Miss Supercropped.

Here they are today. Alien in the front and Miss Supercropped in the back.
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Don't be afraid of LST and supercropping guys!! As long as the plant is healthy, you can run it through the torture chamber, and it will be fine!! I do supercropping and LST on auto, but I make sure to spread the stress over a longer time period than I do with photos.

As you can see I like LST!!(bamboo in pics are from 3/8"-5/8")
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Don't be afraid of LST and supercropping guys!! As long as the plant is healthy, you can run it through the torture chamber, and it will be fine!! I do supercropping and LST on auto, but I make sure to spread the stress over a longer time period than I do with photos.

As you can see I like LST!!(bamboo in pics are from 3/8"-5/8")
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Amzing!

I did some more work on Miss Supercropped today. Two branches were tied down and then I broke her neck.

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My biggest tip in LST is start bending a little bit at a time, especially in regards to older branched plant with semi rigid branches. On my big girls I use reverse supports to take the pressure off the join at the main trunk and transfer it to mid branch.
 
My biggest tip in LST is start bending a little bit at a time, especially in regards to older branched plant with semi rigid branches. On my big girls I use reverse supports to take the pressure off the join at the main trunk and transfer it to mid branch.

And this evening, my big White Widow got her back broken.

She also needs support, if not the stem will snap. As you can see, I had to babdage a wound. It will heal. My Alien has also been worked on. I'll update my outdoor thread tomorrow. Now I'm too stoned to photograph and edit pics.

:baked: :pass:

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And this evening, my big White Widow got her back broken.

She also needs support, if not the stem will snap. As you can see, I had to babdage a wound. It will heal. My Alien has also been worked on. I'll update my outdoor thread tomorrow. Now I'm too stoned to photograph and edit pics.

:baked: :pass:

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OUch!! Hope she mends together great for you! In the future, try to LST train earlier in growth as the branches are less rigid. Also have a look at my current grow on potros, for reverse supports. It could be done on indoor girls effectively for sure. https://www.potpros.net/forums/thre...tdoor-dp-11-strains.51750/page-7#post-1061246
 
OUch!! Hope she mends together great for you! In the future, try to LST train earlier in growth as the branches are less rigid. Also have a look at my current grow on potros, for reverse supports. It could be done on indoor girls effectively for sure. https://www.potpros.net/forums/thre...tdoor-dp-11-strains.51750/page-7#post-1061246

I agree completely. But I didn't have the guts until now.
She will be good. I have studied numerous threads, websites and videos. My tests on WW #2 was good exercise and understood what's going on. I will study your thread when I'm not so stoned. :baked:
 
I agree completely. But I didn't have the guts until now.
She will be good. I have studied numerous threads, websites and videos. My tests on WW #2 was good exercise and understood what's going on. I will study your thread when I'm not so stoned. :baked:

Also have a look I the link in my signature "Techniques for all outdoor plants I grow"
Eventually I will get the reverse supports section of my current grow integrated into the guide. Good luck bud, in time you will be an LST master, and without a doubt you will reap the benefits from the technique!
 
Here's a little blurb

Supercropping is a term given to a group of techniques that, when used in conjunction, will produce greatly improved yields over untreated plants. Various methods can be used when supercropping, and they are outlined below.
You can use one or all methods of supercropping, modified to your individual needs. The end result is an increased yield.

Crimping
Crimping is an advanced technique whereby you break the inner herd of the plant without damaging the outer, which is where all the plants strength comes from. Break open the stalk of a cannabis plant and you'll notice immediately the hard, outer herd. This is where textiles come from. The soft inner, lighter colored material is pure cellulose - the phloem and xylem.


In vascular plants, phloem is the living tissue that carries organic nutrients, particularly sucrose, a sugar, to all parts of the plant where needed. In trees, the phloem is the innermost layer of the bark, hence the name, derived from the Greek word φλοιος (phloios) for "bark". The phloem is mainly concerned with the transport of glucose and starch made during photosynthesis.

The plant passes water and nutrients cell to cell through this network of cellulose. Breaking the plant's inner walls will cause it to rebuild. But it rebuilds these networks better than they were before; it rebuilds so fast (under good growth conditions) that 24 hours later the plant is using the new highways and it's increased capacity for moving water and nutrients.

This technique can begin as early as the seedling stage. Twisting the plant gently, using both hands so you don't pull on it's roots. Work each of the plants branches every 2", up to once week. Do this by grasping the spot to be treated with two fingers of each hand. Use one hand to stabilize, while the other gently, slowly twists. Or you can twist with both hands in opposite directions, slowly until you feel a slight snap. When the plant's get heartier you will actually be able to hear it.
On smaller branches, you do not need to twist, as firm finger pressure will rupture the herd.
That sounds absolutely terrifying!!! :pass:
 
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