Live Stoners Live Stoner Chat - Apr-Jun '23

[Lil Dab]

@Lil Dab https://support.ilovegrowingmarijuana.com/t/started-in-peat-pellets/33363/26

First off I don’t have much respect for ilgm just my opinion.. I have done it my self with no issues because @Olderfart told me he hadn’t seen a difference in either way.. Bottom line is with growing your going to find what ever answer you are looking for “confirmation bias”

I now use the peat pellets all the time. I have tried direct planting, and for me it has not done as well, early growth seems to suffer a bit due to the difficulty of getting watering right, at least it has for me. Other peeps here seem to make direct planting work, but I seem to get a better early start with the pellets than I have starting in larger containers. Keep in mind that there is a big difference between photos and autos. With photos, a slow initial start is not a problem, with autos running down the clock with early issues can be a big deal.

I have used the pellets with and without trying to remove the mesh, either entirely or just the bottom, but it does not seem to make much difference, roots that penetrate the mesh do not seem to be deterred or constricted when I check the root ball later.

The peat pellets need to be planted pretty quickly, but for me it seems that the couple day kick start gets them going nicely and consistently. I have heard others complain about pH with the pellets, but I have never seen an issue with it. I like the pellets because they are easily available and cheap locally. The rapid rooters and the like which are sold wet have too many issues for me, and are stupid expensive by comparison. Bottom line is that the pellets are cheap, readily available, and work as well or better than anything else I have tried. The one improvement on them that I might consider is making my own with some sort of paper or other organic "mesh" on the outside, but so far, I have not bothered. I also don't bother with intermediate potting up, as soon as the the tap root emerges, I plant the pellet in the final pot. Again, with photos, potting up might make sense, but with autos, IMO, perhaps not so much.

The fabric pots work really well, there is no need to try anything else with the autovalves IMO. I roll mine down to about 3 imperial gallons. With coco or soil and salt nutes, you do not need the full size pots. With soil and water only, you need larger. One of these days, Autopots will come up with a larger tray for 10 gallon containers just for the water only crew, but so far if you want larger tray, you have to make your own.

Good luck with it, the autovalve/autopot kit can work really well if you can stay on top of the nutes.

 

[Hog_M@Gundy]

First off I don’t have much respect for ilgm just my opinion.. I have done it my self with no issues because @Olderfart told me he hadn’t seen a difference in either way.. Bottom line is with growing your going to find what ever answer you are looking for “confirmation bias”

Yeah, the dude who runs ILGM comes on a podcast I listen to and I always think "oh great... this moron who clearly doesnt know what he's talking about."
As far as research showing you should remove the mesh, other random people's experiences aren't as valid as your own. @I love weed if youripped the roots when you removed it, that's really the most relevant data point to your situation. FWIW, I just started some seeds in these AC Infinity degradable nursery bags that you supposedly put straight into the larger pot at transplant.

 

[Mrs.InkAddict]

Yeah, the dude who runs ILGM comes on a podcast I listen to and I always think "oh great... this moron who clearly doesnt know what he's talking about."
As far as research showing you should remove the mesh, other random people's experiences aren't as valid as your own. @I love weed if youripped the roots when you removed it, that's really the most relevant data point to your situation. FWIW, I just started some seeds in these AC Infinity degradable nursery bags that you supposedly put straight into the larger pot at transplant.
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@InkAddict$ babe aren’t these the same bags we have ?

 

[Buzzard]

Those nursery bags are awesome.....there are a couple different sizes too

 

[InkAddict$]

@InkAddict$ babe aren’t these the same bags we have ?

No never heard of them....

 

[Lil Dab]

Yeah, the dude who runs ILGM comes on a podcast I listen to and I always think "oh great... this moron who clearly doesnt know what he's talking about."
As far as research showing you should remove the mesh, other random people's experiences aren't as valid as your own. @I love weed if youripped the roots when you removed it, that's really the most relevant data point to your situation. FWIW, I just started some seeds in these AC Infinity degradable nursery bags that you supposedly put straight into the larger pot at transplant.
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Exactly and from what read his seeds are just white label bulk seeds repackaged and the ones I grew showed that

 

[InkAddict$]

Those nursery bags are awesome.....there are a couple different sizes tool

Exactly and from what read his seeds are just white label bulk seeds repackaged and the ones I grew showed that

Wait what's white label seeds? And are these ac infinity bags worth it?

 

[Jpkindbud]

First off I don’t have much respect for ilgm just my opinion.. I have done it my self with no issues because @Olderfart told me he hadn’t seen a difference in either way.. Bottom line is with growing your going to find what ever answer you are looking for “confirmation bias”

I dig the peat pellets. Root riot cubes would be a might better cuz less density but peat works fine for me

 

[Hog_M@Gundy]

Wait what's white label seeds? And are these ac infinity bags worth it?

White label seeds are seeds that are made in bulk by seed makers, re-labeled with whatever brand name (ILGM/Barney's Farm) sells them. Theyre not actual breeders, and they don't even usually contract breeders to make their seeds. The Walmarts of canna genetics. Bags seems good so far but haven't done a transplant yet to see of they really break down in the soil.

 

[DCLXVI]

Guys, I ripped the root of one of my seedlings, when removing the jiffy pellet netting. Will this set me back?

A little but don't worry. Just learn for next time. I also use Jiffys to get started. If I catch the sprout before the roots are out the bottom I pull the netting. If the roots are through it already, then leave it.