Photoperiod Issue with my photos - need advice

[DTOM420]

Sorry if this is the wrong place to put this but I wasn’t sure where to post it.

I’ve got 2 photo plants (Blue Widow & Blue Headwreck) in 7 gallon soil bags. Both started under T5 bulbs and sexed around 5 weeks of age. I kept them real close to the T5 fixture when they were young and they were very compact. Once they both showed female, they were moved to my new grow tent and went under a 600w (at the wall) quantum board fixture at 3000k spectrum on 20on/4off. I did some fairly heavy LSTing not too much later as well as some defoliating. Initially, I had the light about 16” above the plants but a moved the lights up as high as I could in the tent (maybe 2-2.25’ above now) The issue is, they have never stretched out and are SO dense that I’m not sure what to make of it. I’ve defoliated a bunch and they just fill right back in. I’m just back to growing after 25+ years away and I never had plants like this back then; and the autos I’ve been growing don’t do this. You can see how tight/stacked things are in the pictures below. They’re 2.5 months old already and, if the node spacing was even close to normal, they’d be filling my tent. It’s got me ‘throwed!’ Lol.

Is this normal? Is it a function of the light being too strong?

I’m going to be flipping them in 2-3 weeks (I’m waiting on some autos) and I’m wondering what I can do, if anything, to get them to stretch out a bit. I feel like they will have problems or not maximize production with such a dense structure. Any advice would be appreciated!

The plant on the left is the Blue Widow and the far right is the Headwreck. The tent is 5x5. So, that gives you an idea of their general size.

 

[Citadel]

They look stressed and over fed by my eye mate.

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[SeaTurtlesAreGreat2]

Sorry if this is the wrong place to put this but I wasn’t sure where to post it.

I’ve got 2 photo plants (Blue Widow & Blue Headwreck) in 7 gallon soil bags. Both started under T5 bulbs and sexed around 5 weeks of age. I kept them real close to the T5 fixture when they were young and they were very compact. Once they both showed female, they were moved to my new grow tent and went under a 600w (at the wall) quantum board fixture at 3000k spectrum on 20on/4off. I did some fairly heavy LSTing not too much later as well as some defoliating. Initially, I had the light about 16” above the plants but a moved the lights up as high as I could in the tent (maybe 2-2.25’ above now) The issue is, they have never stretched out and are SO dense that I’m not sure what to make of it. I’ve defoliated a bunch and they just fill right back in. I’m just back to growing after 25+ years away and I never had plants like this back then; and the autos I’ve been growing don’t do this. You can see how tight/stacked things are in the pictures below. They’re 2.5 months old already and, if the node spacing was even close to normal, they’d be filling my tent. It’s got me ‘throwed!’ Lol.

Is this normal? Is it a function of the light being too strong?

I’m going to be flipping them in 2-3 weeks (I’m waiting on some autos) and I’m wondering what I can do, if anything, to get them to stretch out a bit. I feel like they will have problems or not maximize production with such a dense structure. Any advice would be appreciated!
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The plant on the left is the Blue Widow and the far right is the Headwreck. The tent is 5x5. So, that gives you an idea of their general size.
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Looks like you revegged a plant. I do that all the time. U arent gonna like what u hear but here it goes. Start splitting those limbs. Pull them all down to the sides. The stalk will recover those are strong . the stretch will come when a plants like that. But open her up like i said and watch her fly.

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[SeaTurtlesAreGreat2]

Looks like you revegged a plant. I do that all the time. U arent gonna like what u hear but here it goes. Start splitting those limbs. Pull them all down to the sides. The stalk will recover those are strong . the stretch will come when a plants like that. But open her up like i said and watch her fly.

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Here's somewhat u will have after u start flip after a week or so.

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[DTOM420]

They look stressed and over fed by my eye mate.

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Yeah, I took pics on watering day BEFORE I watered; and it was evening instead of morning when I usually water. So they were droopy. They don’t get fed much. Once a week at half strength and the rest of the time just pH’d water with cal-mag. It’s possible the soil is too strong. I had a sudden (out of nowhere) pH issue with the soil and it caused a lockout. Not sure how it occurred but soil got down to like 4.5! It’s back up to 6.4 now after watering with my un-pH’d well water that’s 7.7. She’s been slowly recovering.

Wound over feeding cause those tight nodal spacing?

 

[DTOM420]

Looks like you revegged a plant. I do that all the time. U arent gonna like what u hear but here it goes. Start splitting those limbs. Pull them all down to the sides. The stalk will recover those are strong . the stretch will come when a plants like that. But open her up like i said and watch her fly.

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Yep, I re-vegged after putting them on 12/12 to sex them and get rid of the males.

Ok. I’m not sure what splitting the limbs is or how to do it. Could you explain how or are there videos on YouTube showing how to do it? Also....which limbs do I split - the small o RS or the main limbs? What does this do for the plant?

I don’t mind doing it. I love learning!

 

[SeaTurtlesAreGreat2]

Yep, I re-vegged after putting them on 12/12 to sex them and get rid of the males.

Ok. I’m not sure what splitting the limbs is or how to do it. Could you explain how or are there videos on YouTube showing how to do it? Also....which limbs do I split - the small o RS or the main limbs? What does this do for the plant?

I don’t mind doing it. I love learning!

Ok basically your bending the plant. Take your thumb and index finger and roll the vines which way u want them to go. U can twist while your bending it will make kinda a super high way for your nutrients , the way that plant looks it just needs spread out like a spiders feet. Take all the vines and bend them outward . that's it man . u will see what I'm saying . just pull them all down

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[SeaTurtlesAreGreat2]

And what it does is turn them into monsters lol, if u reveg a plant and let her go 60 days veg u will have monsters lol . Here's a small one i got.

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[SeaTurtlesAreGreat2]

And what it does is turn them into monsters lol, if u reveg a plant and let her go 60 days veg u will have monsters lol . Here's a small one i got. View attachment 968388

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And these arent reveg these are just lst trained like i told u how to

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[SeaTurtlesAreGreat2]

Yeah, I took pics on watering day BEFORE I watered; and it was evening instead of morning when I usually water. So they were droopy. They don’t get fed much. Once a week at half strength and the rest of the time just pH’d water with cal-mag. It’s possible the soil is too strong. I had a sudden (out of nowhere) pH issue with the soil and it caused a lockout. Not sure how it occurred but soil got down to like 4.5! It’s back up to 6.4 now after watering with my un-pH’d well water that’s 7.7. She’s been slowly recovering.

Wound over feeding cause those tight nodal spacing?

No that's what reveg does close spacing huge colas. Here ya go brother . and over Fed? Depending on the strain u can push reveg way harder than a seed trust me

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