Indoor In too deep.. Whatsgoodie's massive autoflower grow [JOURNAL, ROOM CONSTRUCTION -> GROW]

[JM]

sorry to hear bro... I've had my issues too... I know thats a mistake you wont make again though! so it was a $120 lesson... well worth it if you ask me... think what it would cost to actually go to school for it? good karma sent for your re-fire!

 

[whatsgoodie]

Thanks for the good karma JM. It served me well. Also thanks for the knowledge on oxygenating the water and how to do it properly. I nuted my water (haha, I neutered it too.. the PH that is), then PH'd back up to 6.8 (a little high, I know.. little less than a TBSP of Baking Soda per gallon is what I learned.. I used an even TBSP). I hit my sprouts with their first round of nutes (4 TBSP big bloom, 2 TSP Microbe Brew... HTG sent me sledgehammer instead of Kangaroots... -_-, didn't realize it until tonight.)

Also of the 10 seeds germed, 7 had root tips about 5PM today when I came home.. so they're now in solo cups awaiting sprout!

Here's some shots;

First off, here's the setup of the lights - 6x 26W 2700ks, 2x 26W 6500ks (they were supposed to be my supplemental grow lights.. why they're the flower spectrum mostly)



They're relatively close besides the edge ones which I've repositioned to be more level and moved down now as well..

But it appears that some of the plants in the MIDDLE are stretching? Just wanted an opinion.



Then the two in the back here... the front two look short and stout.



And my favorite two of the 13...




On my next day off I plan on moving them to the grow room (pictures still coming.. I wanna have some suspense here!!, you guys will like the room!!!) and their final medium. (50% LW/50% OF).. I plan on doing one more nute watering before then, then 1/4 strength nute watering after I move them (because of the OF)...

Once they hit the room they'll be in enclosed mylar goodness with 600W of HPS on the bottom or 400W of HPS with 200W of CFL on the top (two layer box..)

Thanks for checking this out!

wg

 

[whatsgoodie]

Welp, I set 7 more Lowlife AKxDiesel auto's to germ last night. I'm in search of a male to collect pollen from and make a cross (Will pick my favorite from this grow to pollenate). Who knows, I'm sure I'll get some females to grow out and enjoy as well.

Friends, I'm in need of assistance! My plants really shot up over night after their nute feeding.. they all took it pretty well, one plant had some drooping this morning after lights on (it's gotten better since my return to work), one plant thought, it was born with neon green leaf tips.. they're becoming more vibrant now after the nute feeding.. is this a deficiency or an overload of something? I watered with my water @ 6.8 PH... could this have done this?.. I have sledgehammer so I can flush the plants if need be already.. lol.

Thanks for checking it out!

 

[JM]

well... first... thanks for the updates... suspense is definetly building!
yes... thats a ph lockout.. alsmost positive... 6.3-6.5 is the range... 6.8 locks out phosphorus and potassium and magnesium... which is what that tip defficiency is... I wouldn't sledgehammer... just ph your next watering to 5.5 to bring it down gently.. remember ph and nutrient swings are a form of stress too... you dont want to stress them early.



as far as the "stretching goes" couple things... spectrum is key... seedlings need a veg spectrum and close light proximity for short nodses and fatness. (like 6500k CFL)
distance from light is so huge a factor... so huge!

see chart:

 

[whatsgoodie]

fml guys. I moved everything to the grow room last night and today the fucking fan timer shut off but not the light timer.... so guess what?... lost 8 plants to fucking heat stroke. almost black stems, collapsed, etc. The ones that lived have purpleish stems some have light burned leaves.. just overall a bad experience for my first grow. Live and learn.. but damn, why all the bad karma!!!!

some made it through but this is really discouraging. I'm so mad. I have 10 BHD and 10 Sour60 coming that I plan on doing 100% the right way and getting some hearty males and going seed crazy. I've had enough of this shit.. I won't be beat >_< I JUST WON'T!

Of course I still have some seeds left from this grow (original grow started with 54 feminized seeds total..) so I'm still not down and out, just .. down and out emotionally. Really sad. :/

All of my onyx is gone.. and my last one didn't germ.

 

[JM]

sorry to hear bro... we all have pitfalls... but that which does not kill us makes us stronger (and smarter)... you'll pull through .... could put the fan on the light outlet... so when they are on... its on... mine are rigged that way... also my exhaust is on 24/7 to both keep coool and prevent that issues... as well as generate continous neg pressure to prevent any smell.

hope this helps... and good karma sent mate! keep your chin up and your head down JM

 

[Northern Grower]

All of us have killed a few plants. It's part of the learning curve.

What i do with a new grow space, is run everything for 24 hours before i put in the plants. I put in one of those thermometers that records the highest temp reached. That way i know what is going on while i am sleeping and away. Has saved me on a few occasions.

The good thing is it hasn't gotten you down. :thumbs:

 

[Scott817]

Bummer about the loss but it gives you a chance to get everything dialed in and tuned up. Just take a breath and go slow. Only bad things ever happen fast it seems.

 

[JM]

What i do with a new grow space, is run everything for 24 hours before i put in the plants. I put in one of those thermometers that records the highest temp reached. That way i know what is going on while i am sleeping and away. Has saved me on a few occasions.

I do this too... I leave one in there and check highs lows every day so I know if anything's changed... anything for my girls...

Only bad things ever happen fast it seems

great quote! soo true! every girl i hooked up withfast was bad! lol everything you try to do FAST ends up WRONG.

 

[whatsgoodie]

All of us have killed a few plants. It's part of the learning curve.

What i do with a new grow space, is run everything for 24 hours before i put in the plants. I put in one of those thermometers that records the highest temp reached. That way i know what is going on while i am sleeping and away. Has saved me on a few occasions.

The good thing is it hasn't gotten you down. :thumbs:

I did man. The timer itself failed. Like the fan wasn't even turning on anymore unless I removed it and plugged the controller directly into the wall.

I have the thermometer that checks high low and has the positionable sensor, I have one by the light and the thermometer itself near one of the pots.

Typically the room was 110 by the light and 84 by the plants. The room is two shelved (Scott asked e about cooling this earlier and growing certain plants..) so the fans shutting off means the temps get brutal. The light was 120 and the plants hit 108 when the fans didn't turn on.

I'll post a grow room pic after the revamp. I've decided to put my 400W HPS away and just do my 600W HPS and some supp CFLs. My 400W is convertible and I have a MH bulb for it.. so maybe I'll make a new cab to start plants in to ease my woes and keep myself busy.

With the revamped room the height will be up to 6.3 feet to be within 18 inches of the bulb at max height.. sooo... germinating 2 #1s and 2 Annaprunas tonight..

As well.. to make up for the dead..

1 Blood Mary
1 Flash Babylon
1 Mi5
1 UltraViolet.

I promise this thread will not be a freakin disappointment after this. I have pH up and pH down coming tomorrow as well for no more stupid watering early on. I have all the processes down including transplanting. I've also done away with the pots and have grow bags now.

I appreciate all the positive reinforcement and good karma guys. I'm not gonna let ya'll down after tonight. I've sworn to mother and nurture these things as I do my damn kids!!! I've really been putting my time into this so it sucks. Like the thread title says.. IN TOOOO DEEEP!! Not coming up for air yet though!!!