Well i did pollinate got 30 seeds.....grew a few 2 males and one fem.....she is now 6 weeks old flowering for 3.....so my auto short riser fem x hbd auto male.....bout 16inches tall no side branches looks like the short ryder i grew before so is this a succes or what.....not sure cause shes not in my pipe but im pretty content knowing if need be i dont have to order out for seed no more.....