New Grower Hope She's Gentle. It's My First Time! - Think Different

[Trapper]

Day 37
Temp Range: 73.9° - 86°
Humidity Range: 34% - 49%
Solution PH: 6.1
Soil PH: (shallow) 6.7 (Deep) 6.4
Runoff PH: 7.0




So, I did what you recommended, and took shallow PH measurements, and deep PH measurements, and the odd thing is, the higher PH measurements were in the uppermarea of the soil. I stuckmthe meter in three different locations of the soil, took a shallow reading, then pushed the meter deeper for another reading. In each check, the shallow reading was 6.6 - 6.7, and the deeper reading were pretty much spot on 6.4, so there is a difference in the PH of the soil that is closer to the surface, and the PH of the soil that is much deeper. In this case, what should I do?

Nothing

If you're 6.4 in the wet stuff and 6.6 in the top dry stuff....you're wheelhouse my friend.

IMHO, I trust my soil gauge over what my run-off says. personally.

 

[Eyes on Fire]

yeah its mostly like just lightly exchanging food n wash be it chems OR organics every here or there.Not a have to do type of thing.just an every few waterings er so.assuming your Soil an all that awesome is good.The Heavier you feed it the more your gonna have to do it and the more often..that simple imho.:Sharing One:

 

[Darth Vapour]

Day 37
Temp Range: 73.9° - 86°
Humidity Range: 34% - 49%
Solution PH: 6.1
Soil PH: (shallow) 6.7 (Deep) 6.4
Runoff PH: 7.0




So, I did what you recommended, and took shallow PH measurements, and deep PH measurements, and the odd thing is, the higher PH measurements were in the uppermarea of the soil. I stuckmthe meter in three different locations of the soil, took a shallow reading, then pushed the meter deeper for another reading. In each check, the shallow reading was 6.6 - 6.7, and the deeper reading were pretty much spot on 6.4, so there is a difference in the PH of the soil that is closer to the surface, and the PH of the soil that is much deeper. In this case, what should I do?

Just get high as balls and watch your plant grow :thumbs:

 

[ThaGreenBandit]

Nothing

If you're 6.4 in the wet stuff and 6.6 in the top dry stuff....you're wheelhouse my friend.

IMHO, I trust my soil gauge over what my run-off says. personally.

OK, cool. One thing I can't understand, is even after I've increased the nutes, I'm still getting the yellowing and dying off of the big fan leaves, which, to me, looks like N deficiency. Can't figure that out. Also curious about some of those top leaves getting brown spots.

yeah its mostly like just lightly exchanging food n wash be it chems OR organics every here or there.Not a have to do type of thing.just an every few waterings er so.assuming your Soil an all that awesome is good.The Heavier you feed it the more your gonna have to do it and the more often..that simple imho.:Sharing One:

Are you referring to having to flush more often, the heavier I feed? I've only flushed her once since the beginning of her grow

 

[Dazed]

Mo matter what kind of pot you use watering until you have runoff just shows you that you have watered enough to fully reach the bottom and the bottom roots .I t has nothing to do with flushing.

I just watered because the top 2 inches of soil were powder dry, yet the bottom of the pot was still damp enough,,,

 

[Happy Horticulturist]

OK, cool. One thing I can't understand, is even after I've increased the nutes, I'm still getting the yellowing and dying off of the big fan leaves, which, to me, looks like N deficiency. Can't figure that out. Also curious about some of those top leaves getting brown spots.

Are you referring to having to flush more often, the heavier I feed? I've only flushed her once since the beginning of her grow

Okay brown spots on upper leaves to me is most likely calcium deficiency (it could be bugs as well but most likely calcium as that makes lots of small brown dots on upper fan leaves first.)

I would get some Plant Magic Magne-Cal+ (it's a cal/mag with added iron and some micro nutrients too). Give her a good shot of that, say 1ml per litre each watering until it goes away.

The fan leaves yellowing and dying off could possibly be N deficiency. If they are lacking in calcium they could also be lacking in Nitrogen as well. Try giving them a stronger base nutrient feed. Which nutrients do you use? I use Advanced Nutrients and Plant Magic Magne-Cal+. Same as what TaNg uses except I figured out this combo of nutes works well before I ever came across this forum. I will however be trying plagron light mix and tangs grow schedule next grow instead of my coco and see what difference it makes

 

[ThaGreenBandit]

Okay brown spots on upper leaves to me is most likely calcium deficiency (it could be bugs as well but most likely calcium as that makes lots of small brown dots on upper fan leaves first.)

I would get some Plant Magic Magne-Cal+ (it's a cal/mag with added iron and some micro nutrients too). Give her a good shot of that, say 1ml per litre each watering until it goes away.

The fan leaves yellowing and dying off could possibly be N deficiency. If they are lacking in calcium they could also be lacking in Nitrogen as well. Try giving them a stronger base nutrient feed. Which nutrients do you use? I use Advanced Nutrients and Plant Magic Magne-Cal+. Same as what TaNg uses except I figured out this combo of nutes works well before I ever came across this forum. I will however be trying plagron light mix and tangs grow schedule next grow instead of my coco and see what difference it makes

I've I'm using the Dutch Pro line of nutrients that are specifically designed for autos, and to that I've been adding Botanicare CalMag at 1 ml per litre.
I've been checking, pretty much every day, for any signs of pests, but haven't seen anything. I check both the top side and the under side

 

[Trapper]

I personally think she needs more Cal/Mag....these LEDs increase uptake dramatically....so big LED means regular regimen of Cal/Mag....my 2 cents.

 

[Eyes on Fire]

Nah not really man..Im not talking about flushing her at all.I just find to stager your doses and feed strengths in conjunction with some run off here dialed in for what your plant(s) is needing at that precise moment and thats is all I ment man.."AFN smoke out"

 

[medi]

I personally think she needs more Cal/Mag....these LEDs increase uptake dramatically....so big LED means regular regimen of Cal/Mag....my 2 cents.

One of the things that's been hurting him is the fact that his CALMG+ from botanicare is 2-0-0 so there's no way to give them CA and MG without also giving them another N dose.