HELP!! 2nd 6 pot organic auto grow- problems

[Kalijah]

Going back to your previous posts.

I'm thinking if I get it from the site i just mentioned I'd be saving quite a bit of money so don't mind buying it all in one go now haha plus this company had a pretty good reputation and I could deal directly with them as they stock their own stuff. Just trying to source a decent compost atm.

I've worked out I'll need around 24 gallons per run so working out a 50 gallon batch would be good then I've always got a fresh lot waiting for the next run or just a lil extra if I decide to do more.

I'll see what u say about this new site and if u think there is anything else on there I might be able to add then I'll get buying.in the mean time ima get Reading the revs book

 

[Eyes on Fire]

yeah you could remove the gypsum and instead I would go with the tomato bloom granule used at half strength or use the stuff I mentioned earlier. the numbers are easier to work with so the batch dont get too hot for flower if you use a little too much. but either will ultimately work alright. but either the tomato bloom on the current site you want or the other granule I mentioned. but these are the two id buy personally from what I see there.

after looking again I would just buy these granules personally. the 7-7-7 is ok but you want a little reasurance with the flowering aspect of your soil imo.

http://www.organiccatalogue.com/p44...URPOSE-FERTILISER-6-5-7-4kg/product_info.html

and imho I would get rid of the hoof n Horn and buy the blood meal instead. Just thats what I use and Im familiar with the product more so if you have issues I can help easier with similar products that I know how they behave.

http://www.elixirgardensupplies.co.uk/dried-blood-organic-fertilizer-12-0-0.html

but yeah the new site seems fine. ill have to go over again tomorrow or later this evening. Im beat. LOL pain takes it outta you..LOL ya know..

 

[Kalijah]

That's one thing I'm a little wary of and that's the soil being too hot for my autos.im mainly growing mephisto genetics at the moment and they seem pretty hard going.

I'll have a look at the tomato bloom. At the moment I'm just trying to source a small enough compost bin.i don't want anything too mahoosive haha oh just read the next paragraph I won't get the tomato bloom then lol

I could get the blood meal and the hoof and horn or is that a tad too much. I'm having trouble with the feather meal at the moment so what could I sub that with.

Sweet dude when you come up with something I will start ordering.....
Btw I hope you don't think I'm lazy I just need a hand getting on track then I should be sweet.just nice to learn and get shown by experienced growers. Others are to quick to say pick up a book or research yourself when it's what forums like this are made for.

Legend

 

[Eyes on Fire]

nah, if you want to buy it you can make the dose half and half. which is fine if you want it but either or of the blood meal or Hoof n horn but I would just get the blood meal. feather meal is out. what about cotton seed meal?fish meal will work too. just not as potent. something a little slower release than the blood or horn. although i suspect hoof n horn goes a little slower after the initial shock of it,similar(but slower imo) to blood meal. but fish or cotton seed meal are even slow than that imo. so I would go with those or either.

ya know for a quick fix until your friends get back from travel you can look at GBD mephistos mix. it works and for all of fifty bucks you can have an easy start then build a better one. until then you can read and learn as your supposed too.LOL! only reason Im helping you as much ion your in europe and some things are vastly different and some things are tough to get. and if you want the revs mix EU style? you'll need help.and a lot of it. also @Dazed did or still does organics and started some time ago before some of these product(that I know of) were readily available there across the way.

and a compost bin. you could look at small worm farms too. easy and smaller. a 20-30 gallon tote with holes or smaller will suffice for a make shift compost bin. most things will. bokashi bins. all easy and simple but youll have to read on how to do them. I aint got that kinda time LOL! and your welcome bro, dont worry about it!

 

[Kalijah]

Well I'm just reading revs book now and have come to the part about feather meal and he says u could substitute it with hoof and horn meal. Although he doesn't stipulate that it's slow release like you said. Says the bone/fish meal is good slow release source of P with a lil N.but to cut the bone meal 50/50 with fish meal.

GBD mephisto is us customers only on the site. Unless a company ships over here then I would get some. I'll have a surf around the Web for it.

I truly do appreciate it mate, true legend. I am starting to get the hang of it now and starting to write things in the book next to his recipe with products in the UK I can get and use to substitute things with. Slowly getting there my friend lol

Yer I've literally just looked at some worm farms actually ( do I actually need to get worms too haha? ) And a few dustbins/garbage cans lol I will keep you updated dude

 

[Eyes on Fire]

see less than a week and I dont have to type anymore LOL! easy aint it LOL! you do not have to know the nuts n bolts of everything to use them with beautiful consistency too. trust me.. 50/50 with bone meal and fish meal for what exactly? I disagree with that whole heartedly. bllod mealis fien and hoof n horn by itself is fine if you prep the soil slightly different. and when I mean slight ,I mean like an extra half cupof this and MAYBE that.thats all. problem solved if there was even going to be an issue. but the blood meal is just fine. go with that if you can get it imo. but again either is fine.

HUH, i did not know they shipped that only in the US. i suppose customs n shit. dude ,even an EOD tech would have a bit of a difficult time with a few packs to make a ready stance bomb. shits insanity man!!LOL! but yeah, thats what Id do. use blood meal.

 

[Kalijah]

Hey hey hey let's not get ahead of myself here I still need your help haha well to be honest I'll take your advice as I know u know what your talking about. I'll get both and experiment between mixes once I get the hang of it and at least they are both there for when I make teas.
Yer it's only us shipping. You guys have got some great stuff over there man I envy you haha

Couple quick questions dude.

Do you recommend I use just soil or add some of this in aswell
http://www.onestopgrowshop.co.uk/gr...ax-air-50-litres-coco-with-added-perlite.html
Or do I get pure coco with no added perlite.

Also am I going to have to dilute this mix for my autos? I've just bought a 220l compost bin to get started as it was only 15 quid on sale.....bargain lol

I can't source any green sand anywhere on the net for the UK it's ridiculous.

Cheers bro

 

[Eyes on Fire]

dont worry about the green sand, thats easily one you can omit from the mix. I would get the coco AND perlite. not a mix of the two. its going to be too little perlite possibly. its easier imho to use perlite at desired amounts as well as coco coir bro. but to cut a corner you could get it. but I would get that coco bag is fine most likely,and get a 20L bag or so of larger or bigger perlite. other than that,that'll work well.

 

[Kalijah]

Sweet. Sounds good to me. One less expenditure haha yer I don't mind buying them separately if that's what's needed. Just thought that particular one seems ok as it says it's completely organic and prewashed before packaging. I have some small nugget sized perlite that I use already.couple mm big they are.not massive. So I'll look for a larger version. Making my order of most of my bits tonight and then the rest tomorrow. Want to get started as soon as poss but know I've got a long way to go and a load more to learn.

 

[Dazed]

Hey man, sorry I did see this but get sidetracked easily. So you are in blighty and making supersoil? Yh, it's a tough one when we can't get the choice of amendments they do in the US but it is very achievable. Sorry I don't have the time to read all 5 pages of this thread but here is my mix which is all sourced from the UK, easily. TNC has the majority of it, the rest can be found on eBay and Amazon. This mix has been working quite well for me, HOWEVER, I have to supplement with teas sometimes as growing autos in Supersoil is not as straight forward as photoperiod-with photos it works very well as transplanting just before flower is the key, obviously not really advisable with autos. Another point is if the roots hit that supersoil too quickly, it will stunt the plant-not enough and you will see the deficiencies creeping in, it's a very fine balance as Eyes has probably told you already. Get a pump and some airstones so you can supplement with teas if you need to, even basic casting/molasses and bat guano works great in flower (pretty much all I use, maybe hoof n horn if they are yellowing). If you are growing under LED like me, you need to keep in mind that ca/mg is needed to boost them up esp in stretch mode. My soil has been cooking for over a year now and is well broken down so the longer you can leave it the better.

Here is my mix:

50ltrs Allmix

10ltrs Coco Coir

10ltrs Perlite

4lbs/2kg Worm Castings

4lbs/2kg Leaf Mold

10oz/300g Bone Meal 3.5-17-0

5oz/150g Bat Guano 1-10-1

5oz/150g Hoof and Horn 13-0-0

10oz/300g Seaweed Meal

1/2 cup Volcanic Rock Dust

1 tablespoon Mycorrhizae

1/2 cup Egg shells

1/4 cup Epsom Salts

2 cups Gypsum

2 cups Oyster shell

1 tablespoon Humic Acid

75 ml Silica (RAW brand)

You can also add a tsp of sulphate of Potash when adding to your pots, I do and it helps in flower.

Here are 2 Black Stones with a week to go and an Amnesia Stone99 in stretch in said mix.

Good luck mate.