I follow a guy on 420 magazine forums who scrogs photos,He veges for 8 weeks ,flips, sets the net and the stretch fills the net.He also lets the stalk get really tall by removing branches.I'm gonna try his method with photos when it's cool enough to grow photos again.He apparently gets big harvests like 420 but the timing of it all, isn't as pressing.Scrogs work best in tents with sides that can be zipped open and accessed, otherwise its just a pain in the ass with the screen so low. With photos you can veg them longer and and scrog later if you have the room which gives you alot more space to work with.