Greenleaf Sweet Candy - Snake oil or great stuff?

[Olderfart]

The title says it all. I'm growing in coco/perlite, should I order some? Anyone aware of any real information on effects of this stuff?

 

[Simplicio]

The title says it all. I'm growing in coco/perlite, should I order some? Anyone aware of any real information on effects of this stuff?

Greenleaf says Megacrop is all you need.
I believe them, and that's all I use, except for a bit of CalMag with MC 1.0.

Not snake oil, just a product designed to keep you from buying needless stuff from elsewhere.
My vote is to save your money.

 

[Dabber]

The title says it all. I'm growing in coco/perlite, should I order some? Anyone aware of any real information on effects of this stuff?

I dont grow without it I use Sweet Candy pop to chop

 

[bakEQuatorial]

Well, my 2 cents is I don't see any difference using it or without. What I believe is that Greenleaf made a one part all in one product. But people still decided to use MC with their existing products. I mean, most people won't just throw out existing bottles. Growing in soil or part soil will be able to buffer out the extra nutes, As long as its not too crazy.

So naturally when growers get good results with a particular method, everyone jumps in. Everyone will start to add different stuff and with time, everyone feels that's the way to go.

Greenleaf, being a profit making organization can't keep a blind eye. If you guys are gonna buy additives to use with MC, might as well buy from me! Why let others profit off my product?

Greenleaf, being a stand up company that is more honest than others, have already mentioned this several times on forum. However, ppl still don't buy it. Me included!

To each his own I guess and I really need more grows under my belt before giving my 2 cents away!

 

[BII]

I presume Sweet Candy includes carbohydrates/sugars and other organics (amino acids, B vitamins?) that some may not want or want to keep separate for reasons including problems with feed lines clogging, off-pH and smelly fermenting reservoirs, etc.

Yes, MegaCrop is all you need, but supplements can often help and sometimes may be needed. Just look at the complementary products GreenLeaf sells --PK booster, kelp, Sweet Candy, etc. -- It's all good stuff with well-established uses.

 

[Proph]

I mean, you can say that all bottled nutes are snake oil.. If your soil is alive, none of that is needed. There are plenty of cheap ways to naturally increase flavor.. Problem is most people don't fully understand how growing cannabis works. You can't make a plant express more "flavor" than it's capable of. People are looking for a "difference".. That's not really possible with autos. No two phenos of an auto will ever be the same or express the same. So many people say that they don't taste a difference. Sugars, sulfur (mid flower), carbohydrates, and uvb lighting will all help maximize the terpene profile.

 

[Hypathetical Gardener]

Ive been using sweet candy this grow. The smelly res is right. And ill have to report on the flavor. Though frost on one of these compared to the past might suggest a lil something... I think in the future ill just top feed that one to rid the stinkyres. Or ill stop buying it altogether if this run tastes the same.

I love mc. But cannabis does expect a nutrient shift in the available npk ratios. So i find be to be a necessary additive.
Like i told my sis. Use megacrop alone for a couple runs. When you restock, grab a bag of bud explosion. See if theres a difference. If there is, sweet. Now you know. If theres not, sweet! Save your money.

 

[Olderfart]

I mean, you can say that all bottled nutes are snake oil.. If your soil is alive, none of that is needed. There are plenty of cheap ways to naturally increase flavor.. Problem is most people don't fully understand how growing cannabis works. You can't make a plant express more "flavor" than it's capable of. People are looking for a "difference".. That's not really possible with autos. No two phenos of an auto will ever be the same or express the same. So many people say that they don't taste a difference. Sugars, sulfur (mid flower), carbohydrates, and uvb lighting will all help maximize the terpene profile.

I take your point Prophetico, but to me snake oil means useless, not just something with another alternative. I know that growing with soil has its advantages, and I may well take a soil grow on at some point. My question in the original post was intended to ask whether my current megacrop/coco grow would actually be enhanced by Sweet Candy, or whether there was clear reason to think that adding it would have no useful effect whatever. I believe that at least some products in this game are 100% marketing b.s. without a shred of actual evidence or defensible theory to support their use - there is after all a pant load of money to be made selling half liter bottles full of magical water. I was just wondering if anyone had evidence regarding Sweet Candy's actual usefulness.

 

[Proph]

I take your point Prophetico, but to me snake oil means useless, not just something with another alternative. I know that growing with soil has its advantages, and I may well take a soil grow on at some point. My question in the original post was intended to ask whether my current megacrop/coco grow would actually be enhanced by Sweet Candy, or whether there was clear reason to think that adding it would have no useful effect whatever. I believe that at least some products in this game are 100% marketing b.s. without a shred of actual evidence or defensible theory to support their use - there is after all a pant load of money to be made selling half liter bottles full of magical water. I was just wondering if anyone had evidence regarding Sweet Candy's actual usefulness.

It has sugars, carbs, and aminos in it.. All of which are useful. Actually, every ingredient in sweet candy is useful to the plant. I think that's their evidence. It's scientifically known as to how these ingredients effect the plant. Whether we "taste" or "see" a difference, is subjective. Whether we "need" it, is also subjective. But there is no question that the ingredients are useful.

 

[Olderfart]

It has sugars, carbs, and aminos in it.. All of which are useful. Actually, every ingredient in sweet candy is useful to the plant. I think that's their evidence. It's scientifically known as to how these ingredients effect the plant. Whether we "taste" or "see" a difference, is subjective. Whether we "need" it, is also subjective. But there is no question that the ingredients are useful.

Does your expectation of usefulness apply to a coco grow not much dependent on microorganism processing of the Sweet Candy ingredients? If it is useful in coco, is that because plants absorb the ingredients directly, or because there is more microorganism activity in coco than I think? Thanks for your help Prophetico, I appreciate it.