Haha no offense taken at all TBM, I am definetely a newbie so I can only imagine what a fully capable and experienced grower could be doing with LED's. Ohh yeah, my fan got unplugged by accident for over 4 hours yesterday and the temps only reached 85 deg F lol. If that would have been an HPS in my tent with them, my plants would have melted probably lol. Cant beat LED's when it comes to temps. Thanks for all the love guys!