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Yeah I’m seriously looking into an automated water system.
Found 1 not to much$$$ under $100. 5 gallon, but would have to go on outside of tent and would blow the stealth of my tent lol. On my list when we go legal. Have something just put into legislation but dont think will pass yet. Saying we can have 3 in veg and 3 in flower so going to make grow room with 2 sections so can max out growing.
 
The laws r a joke. I grow for my and a couple others needs. I will continue to meet our needs no matter what some law says. None of us could afford to go the legal route and get garbage in the end anyways. We’re supposed to suffer or turn to legal heroin those are our options huh.
 
@Waira just so I have it correct. Pro mix and biobizz are soil, but since they have peat they like it little lower? They're not soilless like coco loco? I thought pro mix was considered soilless because Pro mix stated their optimal range was 5.8-6.2. If I remember correctly my MC came to 6.0-6.2 without ph'ing so I should just let it go at that then?
Promix is "soilless", which I gather means it's not amended with all the various organic and mineral components that true soil has; true soil is a pretty diverse mix of things... I'm pretty sure BioBizz light is very similar, and I'd treat the pH range the same, unless BioBizz says otherwise (I don;'t use soilless)..... As you see, our mate @Ribbzzy is a BioBizz sensei :biggrin:- just look at all the phat chicks he hangs out with! :rofl: ..... if you're using AN, don't mess with pH adjustment at all according to their instructions,... BTW, what's the water source you use, pH/ppm's? See if you use very hard water, (AN rec's not to at all), it can overwhelm the buffering capacity AN has in solution,.. and keep in mind the "self-buffering" deal applies only to the solution, not when it gets into the pots... The medium's do have buffering minerals in them, right? So unless what you put in is pretty far off the proper range, don't force it down/up if it's close, say +/- 0.2 give or take... there's more availability flexibility in soilless vs. hydro, the chemistry in aqueous solution is worlds different from what even soilless behaves like,....
Ca-Mg should have some carbonates in it, and that's what's directly involved in pH buffering, not the free Ca++ itself,... CO3-- will instantly snag up a free H+, turning into bicarbonate HCO3-, which is how it reduces acidity.... Anyway that's why Ca-Mg goes in first, to get the buffering chemistry settled first before you potentially add any adjusters, otherwise the two at more or less the same time will not have time to react and pH settle and you may get wonky readings!
Odd, that your AN solution is coming out that low,.. I suspect you're using RO/Di water? OR you pH meter is off calibration,... you need to be anal about that, storing it in the right solution, rinsing clean after each use, and calibrating often, at least weekly.... RO/Di water will also swing wildly in pH with even small inputs because there's no buffering at all in there, no minerals....
 
Promix is "soilless", which I gather means it's not amended with all the various organic and mineral components that true soil has; true soil is a pretty diverse mix of things... I'm pretty sure BioBizz light is very similar, and I'd treat the pH range the same, unless BioBizz says otherwise (I don;'t use soilless)..... As you see, our mate @Ribbzzy is a BioBizz sensei :biggrin:- just look at all the phat chicks he hangs out with! :rofl: ..... if you're using AN, don't mess with pH adjustment at all according to their instructions,... BTW, what's the water source you use, pH/ppm's? See if you use very hard water, (AN rec's not to at all), it can overwhelm the buffering capacity AN has in solution,.. and keep in mind the "self-buffering" deal applies only to the solution, not when it gets into the pots... The medium's do have buffering minerals in them, right? So unless what you put in is pretty far off the proper range, don't force it down/up if it's close, say +/- 0.2 give or take... there's more availability flexibility in soilless vs. hydro, the chemistry in aqueous solution is worlds different from what even soilless behaves like,....
Ca-Mg should have some carbonates in it, and that's what's directly involved in pH buffering, not the free Ca++ itself,... CO3-- will instantly snag up a free H+, turning into bicarbonate HCO3-, which is how it reduces acidity.... Anyway that's why Ca-Mg goes in first, to get the buffering chemistry settled first before you potentially add any adjusters, otherwise the two at more or less the same time will not have time to react and pH settle and you may get wonky readings!
Odd, that your AN solution is coming out that low,.. I suspect you're using RO/Di water? OR you pH meter is off calibration,... you need to be anal about that, storing it in the right solution, rinsing clean after each use, and calibrating often, at least weekly.... RO/Di water will also swing wildly in pH with even small inputs because there's no buffering at all in there, no minerals....
I use RO water, I have always used ph up except when I ran coco. When I saw it said 5.3 I thought my pen was off a little bit. So i left it go, that's when the trouble started. Tried some stuff with little help until pop22 said it looked like it was over feed or ph was off. That's when I remembered it said 5.3, so checked pen again and was on target. I raised water to 5.8 and that's when everything got back on track. So I'm going to keep ph'ing but have no doubt the say not to. It is getting a little old had just under a year. Last grow I started with MC and had issues. I now think it was a ph issue that cause calmag lockout. I understand how big ph is that's why I'm stressing lol. I lost 2 of my 3 plants last grow so now just about out with 4-5 weeks left till harvest. Thanks for all the help, and now I know why they say to do calmag 1st.
 
Yeah man @Mcdee so long as I keep my ph correct everything just goes smoothly leaves stay looking healthy.
 
Yeah man @Mcdee so long as I keep my ph correct everything just goes smoothly leaves stay looking healthy.
Ya, I thought my ph perfect was fine on its own but to low. Now she is as tall as I can allow, may still be to tall we will see. She is flowering nice going to be longe than I thought she is 53 days today. At this pace 80-90 days. I cant harvest until day 84 due to people at my house when I would be trimming. So looks like she is on pace where I want. Her roommate is 8 days behind but sativa so dont mind if I harvest a little early. I love me some energetic bud! My new thing is green crack. Cant see any trichs cause she was messed up but I can get like 2 dabs worth at a press lol. Sucks but better than nothing and it is total shot of energy. I may start just doing sativa's only hahaha I hate how you get tired smoking indica all day. Sativa get me moving doing shit I dont want to do at a crack heads pace lol.
 
There is no nutrients in it. Need to know if it's like pro mix or like FFOF. Pro mix's ph range is 5.5-6.5, FFOF is 6.5-7.5 but says soil buffers to 6.8. You need to be in 1 of those ranges just cant find out which 1 it is. If it's 6.5-7.5 and feed is 5.5, cant imagine it would buffer up to 6.5 but maybe it will. I looked on afn but everything thing I saw said no need to ph???? I got till like 2-3 week of December to find out so got some time.
Wait so biobizz has no nutrients or mycos at all, huh I was always told it's like warrior mix it has light nutes and mycos of some kind. So it's just plain dirt or Coco?
 
Ya, I thought my ph perfect was fine on its own but to low. Now she is as tall as I can allow, may still be to tall we will see. She is flowering nice going to be longe than I thought she is 53 days today. At this pace 80-90 days. I cant harvest until day 84 due to people at my house when I would be trimming. So looks like she is on pace where I want. Her roommate is 8 days behind but sativa so dont mind if I harvest a little early. I love me some energetic bud! My new thing is green crack. Cant see any trichs cause she was messed up but I can get like 2 dabs worth at a press lol. Sucks but better than nothing and it is total shot of energy. I may start just doing sativa's only hahaha I hate how you get tired smoking indica all day. Sativa get me moving doing shit I dont want to do at a crack heads pace lol.
Does this pH and EC help
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Wait so biobizz has no nutrients or mycos at all, huh I was always told it's like warrior mix it has light nutes and mycos of some kind. So it's just plain dirt or Coco?
They have a mix that I think is like ffof full of nutrients and the mix I have that has none you can feed from day 1. I guess it's kinda in between soil and soilless???? Still learning about it lol. @autobeast recommend it so that's good enough for me.
 
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