New Grower First grow with DIY kit

[witchyhour]

I thought that, but it's evenly along the veins. Wouldn't bug damage kill the vein at the first point of damage and cause the leaf to die back? Thinking out my finger tips here.

Itisi
it is isn't it?

I can come up with a few worse places to think out of... [emoji52] [emoji13] [emoji28] [emoji23]

If it's a bug problem, Mr. Vman will figure it out, oh, Muddy Foxtailing Bug Master of Buds! [emoji16] [emoji106]

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[witchyhour]

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Itisi
it is isn't it?

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[witchyhour]

Sounds like they are probably thrips the white flying imps I think would be mostly on top of your soil and the lower part of your plant if you saw them at all.

Do they look like small maggots?

@Itisi has pictures of thrips being murdered!! [emoji55] [emoji102]

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[Waira]

Elle- It's not bugs mate, they don't prefer the harder tougher conductive and structural tissues to suck out of,... This is a more atypical manifestation of Ca defc. for sure-- here's a couple pics to show:

--- I saw the water info, and that high pH indicates hard water, mineral rich at least, so it's odd that between the water and the Ca-Mg supp's you have this issue! Have you taken a EC/TDS reading of the water as well? ... I can't imagine you're using so much Ca-Mg that it's caused a toxicity lockout, because if it was, the pH in that soil would be TARFU high and you'd have other defc. symptoms showing as well,... What soil is this, and what brand and dosage/frequency is the Ca-Mg? Nute's too please,... As for pH adjusting, you should add the Ca-Mg first, then the fert's, let it sit for a few to react and stabilize, then test pH and adjust accordingly,... Soil pH is best in the mid-low 6's, ditto for any solutions,....

 

[Bailey]

OK help please! My mystery Sweet Seeds girl has developed this problem:
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It's the veins themselves which are yellowing, and as you can see there are lighter brown patches on some of the troubled leaves. It started round about mid-height and has spread up and down the plant. I've tried doing a google search for yellowing veins but there's so many conflicting opinions I don't know what's what.

Has anyone experienced this before? The last time I watered I added cal mag and bloom to the water, and adjusted the pH afterwards. Should I do it the other way round? The natural pH of the water here is around 8.2. Should I adjust the pH before I add the nutrients?

I adjust ph after nutes as nutrients can have an impact on ph.
If addition calmag I would say macro nutrients like iron ect

 

[Eclectic Elle]

Elle- It's not bugs mate, they don't prefer the harder tougher conductive and structural tissues to suck out of,... This is a more atypical manifestation of Ca defc. for sure-- here's a couple pics to show:

--- I saw the water info, and that high pH indicates hard water, mineral rich at least, so it's odd that between the water and the Ca-Mg supp's you have this issue! Have you taken a EC/TDS reading of the water as well? ... I can't imagine you're using so much Ca-Mg that it's caused a toxicity lockout, because if it was, the pH in that soil would be TARFU high and you'd have other defc. symptoms showing as well,... What soil is this, and what brand and dosage/frequency is the Ca-Mg? Nute's too please,... As for pH adjusting, you should add the Ca-Mg first, then the fert's, let it sit for a few to react and stabilize, then test pH and adjust accordingly,... Soil pH is best in the mid-low 6's, ditto for any solutions,....

@Waira This is a budget soil grow so I don't have a lot of kit or money to chuck at it and I'm abroad so don't have easy access to anything helpful LOL. I don't have anything to read EC/TDS (what's TDS?). No I've only used a small amount of cal/mag, and only twice in the last 3 weeks as I was worried about lockout. What does TARFU mean?

I can now concentrate on this girl because the other two have gone for the chop. So, soil is Compo Sana universal, and they are separate bottles of Canna Mono Calcium and Magnesium. Nutes are just a cheapo thing for all plants in flower but I can get you the composition - NPK 3-6-6. Dosage instructions say 1-2ml per litre of water, I probably did just over 1ml per 500ml water. Since getting my pH pen I've been adjusting down to around 6.5 but did it before I put the Ca-Mg and ferts in so that was clearly wrong. She would have only had two drinks adjusted like that.

Yesterday I just gave her an adjusted plain water drink but as I thought maybe the last dose of solutions had been too acidic (adjusted water first then added nutes because I didn't know any better) I only brought it down to 7. If I now give full strength Ca and fert, and then adjust the pH to 6.3, will that be good?

She's under CFLs so doesn't drink much.

A further question though, does calcium lose its potency the closer to its expiry date it gets? The date on the bottle is 23/1/2017! The magnesium is dated November 17 so that one's ok.

BTW there ARE bugs on the damn leaves, so she's had a soapy water spray last night. Today I'm good to give her all my attention!

 

[islandgrower]

@Waira This is a budget soil grow so I don't have a lot of kit or money to chuck at it and I'm abroad so don't have easy access to anything helpful LOL. I don't have anything to read EC/TDS (what's TDS?). No I've only used a small amount of cal/mag, and only twice in the last 3 weeks as I was worried about lockout. What does TARFU mean?

I can now concentrate on this girl because the other two have gone for the chop. So, soil is Compo Sana universal, and they are separate bottles of Canna Mono Calcium and Magnesium. Nutes are just a cheapo thing for all plants in flower but I can get you the composition - NPK 3-6-6. Dosage instructions say 1-2ml per litre of water, I probably did just over 1ml per 500ml water. Since getting my pH pen I've been adjusting down to around 6.5 but did it before I put the Ca-Mg and ferts in so that was clearly wrong. She would have only had two drinks adjusted like that.

Yesterday I just gave her an adjusted plain water drink but as I thought maybe the last dose of solutions had been too acidic (adjusted water first then added nutes because I didn't know any better) I only brought it down to 7. If I now give full strength Ca and fert, and then adjust the pH to 6.3, will that be good?

She's under CFLs so doesn't drink much.

A further question though, does calcium lose its potency the closer to its expiry date it gets? The date on the bottle is 23/1/2017! The magnesium is dated November 17 so that one's ok.

BTW there ARE bugs on the damn leaves, so she's had a soapy water spray last night. Today I'm good to give her all my attention!

Did you identify the bug you have?

"carpe diem"

 

[Eclectic Elle]

Did you identify the bug you have?

"carpe diem"

Yes, it's whitefly. Not thrips.

 

[Waira]

:smoking: roger that on your situation,... Oh, TDS - total dissolved solids, measured in ppm's... it's actually an extrapolation of EC (electro-conductivity), so the two are directly related...
TARFU-- sorry, that's an old military abbreviation for Things Are Really F*cked Up!
.... yes, adjust the water or nute solution pH last, after all other inputs are added,...-- yes to the Ca and Mg at full str., pH 6.3 sounds good! The fert's are pretty mild, so at 2ml/L you did last time, try 3ml/L,... ideally, if you could get hold of something with higher P-K ratio, that'd be a nice boost for the buds to come,...
... the expiration dates aren't that black and white about it's condition,.. storage conditions (warm, cold, big swings between), light, etc. can make them last longer-- or not,..also cross contamination with other chem's will muck them up,.. best judge is your eyes and nose, if you recall how it looked/smelled when fresh!
... whiteflies- easy kill there fortunately!

 

[Eclectic Elle]

:smoking: roger that on your situation,... Oh, TDS - total dissolved solids, measured in ppm's... it's actually an extrapolation of EC (electro-conductivity), so the two are directly related...
TARFU-- sorry, that's an old military abbreviation for Things Are Really F*cked Up!
.... yes, adjust the water or nute solution pH last, after all other inputs are added,...-- yes to the Ca and Mg at full str., pH 6.3 sounds good! The fert's are pretty mild, so at 2ml/L you did last time, try 3ml/L,... ideally, if you could get hold of something with higher P-K ratio, that'd be a nice boost for the buds to come,...
... the expiration dates aren't that black and white about it's condition,.. storage conditions (warm, cold, big swings between), light, etc. can make them last longer-- or not,..also cross contamination with other chem's will muck them up,.. best judge is your eyes and nose, if you recall how it looked/smelled when fresh!
... whiteflies- easy kill there fortunately!

OK so I learned two new acronyms LOL.
I only bought the bottles last month, so bad karma to the shop for selling me something short-dated like that - how would I know what it was supposed to smell like fresh? I've never needed anything like that before...

Anyway I took a chance and went ahead and dosed her yesterday, pH just touched 6.1 of the adjusted solution, so I'll give her a couple of days and report back. Thanks very much @Waira for your help, I'm so grateful!
PS I'm not surprised that it's an atypical anything, I'm not exactly a conventional person myself