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[pop22]

UPDATE 04/07/14
Early PM
DAY 116
BLOOM DAY 53
77 DEG 45%
5.9 pH 1300 ppm

THE SEARCH FOR MIZ DUBYA
(We've gone Bushy!)
Bushy hell! It's a damned shrubbery!

Still stretching (stretch #2) and growing 6"+ of new limbs, but no new flowers. I have no clue WHAT the hell she's doing! She's now 6" from the top of a 7' tent! I'm getting to the point of considering this whole fiasco a loss and starting over. She's full of lovely buds down low that will not finish and all the tops still look like a spikey cactus with onsey-twosy buds here and there (the spikes of the cactus!).

Again I have no clue what's going on. The last regular feed was a week or so ago with the exception of adding KoolBloom and calmag a few days ago. After the SECOND 48 hour forced dark cycle, she's starting to use water again, but not at the rate she was previously and very little nutes at all yet (150 ppm). All the fan leaves show the speckling of an old potassium deficiency, but not progressing and is not what's causing her to grow like she has. The pH is solid and the roots are in good shape.

I have no clue what is going on here. A blooming reset??? (pun intended )
:dunno:

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Fish

Give her a good pruning and grow her out! I think we are all curious to see what she does end up producing for buds! She's sure seems to have the traits
of Thai or some other southeast Asian sativa, some of them can stay in bloom for months!

 

[Abbmacher]

UPDATE 04/07/14
Early PM
DAY 116
BLOOM DAY 53
77 DEG 45%
5.9 pH 1300 ppm

THE SEARCH FOR MIZ DUBYA
(We've gone Bushy!)
Bushy hell! It's a damned shrubbery!

Still stretching (stretch #2) and growing 6"+ of new limbs, but no new flowers. I have no clue WHAT the hell she's doing! She's now 6" from the top of a 7' tent! I'm getting to the point of considering this whole fiasco a loss and starting over. She's full of lovely buds down low that will not finish and all the tops still look like a spikey cactus with onsey-twosy buds here and there (the spikes of the cactus!).

Again I have no clue what's going on. The last regular feed was a week or so ago with the exception of adding KoolBloom and calmag a few days ago. After the SECOND 48 hour forced dark cycle, she's starting to use water again, but not at the rate she was previously and very little nutes at all yet (150 ppm). All the fan leaves show the speckling of an old potassium deficiency, but not progressing and is not what's causing her to grow like she has. The pH is solid and the roots are in good shape.

I have no clue what is going on here. A blooming reset??? (pun intended )
:dunno:

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Fish

Nice looking grow dude. I tell you what that elongated bud reminds me of. When I took cuttings from a flowering plant and re vegged them. I mean EXACTLY the same!
I cloned a few budding side branches and after a few weeks the did just what you are seeing, stretched buds with single finger leaves
I would have a check on your timers, make 100% sure the are still on 12/12 and also any light leaks could do the same.
A bit of a shame It was looking awesome. Even so, don't give up, you can still pull her off, lol

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yea looked again, I am 99% sure she is veging again

Make sure your timers are not only set right, but actually turning off for 12 hours

 

[Abbmacher]

Ok, i have been through some of my oldest grows. This was the plant in question. Unfortunately this is not very representative because the plant had recovered from a flowering clone, re veged, the had been flowered a month or so later.
I am afraid this is the only picture i still have. you can see the growth on the bottom of the plant. That looked exactly like yours does now once the flowering clones started to veg again

 

[TxOld Dude]

Thanks Guys for the replies! :Sharing One:

Give her a good pruning and grow her out! I think we are all curious to see what she does end up producing for buds! She's sure seems to have the traits
of Thai or some other southeast Asian sativa, some of them can stay in bloom for months!

Good God, Pop!!! Don't tell me that!! :no: She has til the end of this month and if nothing has changed, she gets the axe. I need the room for PRODUCTIVE plants, not selfish sassy bitches who just want to tease. "OOOh, look at my buds! Aren't they lovely? Would you like some? They're nearly ready... " AAAANNNNNNGGGGGGHHHHHH DENIED!!! :twist: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

Nice looking grow dude. I tell you what that elongated bud reminds me of. When I took cuttings from a flowering plant and re vegged them. I mean EXACTLY the same!
I cloned a few budding side branches and after a few weeks the did just what you are seeing, stretched buds with single finger leaves
I would have a check on your timers, make 100% sure the are still on 12/12 and also any light leaks could do the same.
A bit of a shame It was looking awesome. Even so, don't give up, you can still pull her off, lol

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yea looked again, I am 99% sure she is veging again

Make sure your timers are not only set right, but actually turning off for 12 hours

Ok, i have been through some of my oldest grows. This was the plant in question. Unfortunately this is not very representative because the plant had recovered from a flowering clone, re veged, the had been flowered a month or so later.
I am afraid this is the only picture i still have. you can see the growth on the bottom of the plant. That looked exactly like yours does now once the flowering clones started to veg again

Re: Vegging

I feel you there! Once the switch is thrown, it's stretch then bud. Usually. She did that, but instead of continuing to fill in, she stopped for a week and grew a shit load of roots (filled the bucket), then started stretching again, then stopped (for a week), and is stretching again. Now, it's only the tops. Nothing has changed on the lower portions of the branches which are loaded with popcorn buds. Almost solid. The tips of each branch are stretching and splitting and branching. Damn thing's gonna look like a pom-pom!

It does seem like she got confused somewhere down the line. To say in my own defense, I run a light-tight ship. She's manually opened up (for ventilation) every day at 700a and closed at 700p. The bedroom is light tight as well. Not even an LED. So I hit her with 48hrs of dark and then went back to normal to see if i could kick her back into running again. It woke her up and she started using water and a little nutes again over the last couple of days. And stretching...
:no:

I know it's only been 53 days, but I don't need "do-overs" that can cost weeks. She's from mediocre bagweed anyway that was going to oil. I need the space for the good stuff. I hope she gets her shit together.



Fish

 

[pop22]

Thanks Guys for the replies! :Sharing One:



Good God, Pop!!! Don't tell me that!! :no: She has til the end of this month and if nothing has changed, she gets the axe. I need the room for PRODUCTIVE plants, not selfish sassy bitches who just want to tease. "OOOh, look at my buds! Aren't they lovely? Would you like some? They're nearly ready... " AAAANNNNNNGGGGGGHHHHHH DENIED!!! :twist: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

:roflcry:

 

[TxOld Dude]

Pop? You are the MAN!
(DAS MENCH! if your jewish or german!)

That 48 hour dark recycle was JUST what she needed to snap her out, I believe! Not getting my hopes up yet for another day or two, but as of this morning, the side limbs are filling in like mad and the weight is causing them to twist around, so tonight I'll be playing S&M Ganja-style and tying her up! The top ends of each are still weird, but all the rest down the branches are thickening and I'm now seeing more frost than before! I hope she keeps this up!

This is gonna sting cuz I'm stoked, hyper, and high! It happens when I get excited!

SMACK!!!!!


(Aww! Dude! Sorry! Let me help ya back up!)

Update coming shortly...



Fish

 

[pop22]

Pop? You are the MAN!
(DAS MENCH! if your jewish or german!)

That 48 hour dark recycle was JUST what she needed to snap her out, I believe! Not getting my hopes up yet for another day or two, but as of this morning, the side limbs are filling in like mad and the weight is causing them to twist around, so tonight I'll be playing S&M Ganja-style and tying her up! The top ends of each are still weird, but all the rest down the branches are thickening and I'm now seeing more frost than before! I hope she keeps this up!

This is gonna sting cuz I'm stoked, hyper, and high! It happens when I get excited!

SMACK!!!!!


(Aww! Dude! Sorry! Let me help ya back up!)

Update coming shortly...



Fish

It was a guess really but glad you tried it! Hope it really is the ticket!



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Pop? You are the MAN!
(DAS MENCH! if your jewish or german!)

That 48 hour dark recycle was JUST what she needed to snap her out, I believe! Not getting my hopes up yet for another day or two, but as of this morning, the side limbs are filling in like mad and the weight is causing them to twist around, so tonight I'll be playing S&M Ganja-style and tying her up! The top ends of each are still weird, but all the rest down the branches are thickening and I'm now seeing more frost than before! I hope she keeps this up!

This is gonna sting cuz I'm stoked, hyper, and high! It happens when I get excited!

SMACK!!!!!


(Aww! Dude! Sorry! Let me help ya back up!)

Update coming shortly...



Fish

It was a guess really but glad you tried it! Hope it really is the ticket!

 

[TxOld Dude]

UPDATE 04/09/14
Early PM
DAY 118
BLOOM DAY 55
77 DEG 31%
5.9 pH 1160 ppm

THE SEARCH FOR MIZ DUBYA
(We've gone Bushy!)
Bushy hell! It's a damned shrubbery!

Signs of life today! :dance:

Overnight she started taking water again and just a very few more nutes. When I topped off this morning I noticed the tops had not changed, but the buds down all the limbs had thickened and started putting on the first VERY light frost! I topped the bucket to the 3.5 gallon line instead of the 2.5 and this afternoon I came home to a nearly empty bucket. So, two full gallons added back. The buds had thickened so much the limbs were starting to twist around. She's now all trussed up to keep those upright.

No nutes until tomorrow.

 

[pop22]

Hey! I'm dying here, how about an update lol??? !!! :smoke:

 

[TxOld Dude]

Update? You got it!

UPDATE 04/12/14
Early AM
DAY 121
BLOOM DAY 58
73 DEG 52%
6.1 pH 1460 ppm

THE SEARCH FOR MIZ DUBYA
(We've gone Bushy!)
Bushy hell! It's a damned shrubbery!

Res change yesterday. Boy, was that a pain. Gonna need to get a small pump to drain the res when large plants are involved. Got most of it anyway. 0.5 to 0.75 gallons left in the res @ 670 ppm. Reloaded with 3 gallons of pH 6.0 RO, 5 ml Zone, 10 ml Micro, 20 ml Bloom, 20 ml KoolBloom, and 15 ml CalMag for a total of 1460 ppm. This baby could take more ppm too. Not a sign of burn anywhere from running these high ppms.

Everything seems to be moving in starts and stutters. Changes here and there and not very obvious. Very slow. Hopefully, with the new res things will straighten out IF I don't frig it up again. I may have to dark cycle the tent again cuz I fell asleep on the couch and the LED stayed on til 10p; 3 hours past lights out. The LED is now on the timer strip. I just hope that it doesn't overload it as I'm close to the max rating. That's why it wasn't on there in the first place.

Better pix this time. I guess the camera wants to play nice today!
It's STILL a shitty camera though!


About 2 weeks ago, I cut a sample out of the bottom. I smoked it last night. It had a lovely hashy, earthy taste and a light mellow mind and body buzz. This is why I fell asleep on the couch.

If this is any hint of what's to come....






Fish