@Ripper I am trying to learn the skill these guys have, the skill to read and control your plants moves, I am a newcomer to growing but have smoked weed for many years and I have seen weed plants before, but when I decided it was time for me to have a go, I did my research and saw what these guys were doing.........I haven't EVER seen a weed plant like that before lol!!! so I decided to try and it turned out to be much more interesting than just putting them under lights......obtaining a flat canopy is a better use of light(im sure you already know this)plus there are loads of cool and interesting ways to achieve it.....just my 2p mate