Establishing Credibility Guidelines for Breeders

[Master Sensei]

I am a pretty private person, I don't like to put everything out there. I don't want fame. I said that I breed, reselling Tiger-One genetics is not in by cards like most of my new competition. They are all R1 genetics at this time.

If any of the admins are running an indoor grow and are popping more soon, feel free to message me. I will send you some complimentary and you can run them next to your favorites. This is much better than just bashing my genetics and my resume as a breeder imo. If I was stubborn enough not to try new foods, I would be still eating the same foods I ate as a child. Don't be afraid of change.

 

[SOOTDAWG]

I am a pretty private person, I don't like to put everything out there. I don't want fame. I said that I breed, reselling Tiger-One genetics is not in by cards like most of my new competition. They are all R1 genetics at this time.

Ky. Your BS. relabeling. a white seed retailer. You have been a part of AFN since 2019.....now you google your name......why no posts from you in this forum showing anything prior to this thread?...why. cause your bs....on FB you have been around running the same circles as piss poor performance and greyweirds.....all i see in any of the groups as i am part of many that you are mr C. is the same shit....you have no grows, no transparency, you never post pics of any plants....lofl.....Rich says hello...inbox me for more (lofl)

 

[Master Sensei]

Actions speak louder than words. Feel free to try out my gear for free as an admin. You'll have to learn to live with me in the cannabis space. This is the problem with the industry everyone likes to say their genetics are better etc. What happened to people being compassionate? I started in the cannabis industry in 2015 to help people. It just seems like everyone is power hungry in here and loves to ride the negativity train. Have a great holiday everyone.

 

[SOOTDAWG]

Actions speak louder than words. Feel free to try out my gear for free as an admin. You'll have to learn to live with me in the cannabis space. This is the problem with the industry everyone likes to say their genetics are better etc. What happened to people being compassionate? I started in the cannabis industry in 2015 to help people. It just seems like everyone is power hungry in here and loves to ride the negativity train. Have a great holiday everyone.

Power hungry is taking advantage of the newbie through gullibility by trying to push yourself as a breeder when all you do is buy bulk and resell. Us calling that out is just that. seeing bs, telling peeps not to step in it. I see..you say here grow some of "my genetics" but no..hey look at what i got here .....you could shut us all up with any sort of transparency but like i said..there is none....never has KC posted any plant pics of any sort in any fb groups or elsewhere. inbox me (lol)

 

[WildBill]

Power hungry is taking advantage of the newbie through gullibility by trying to push yourself as a breeder when all you do is buy bulk and resell. Us calling that out is just that. seeing bs, telling peeps not to step in it. I see..you say here grow some of "my genetics" but no..hey look at what i got here .....you could shut us all up with any sort of transparency but like i said..there is none....never has KC posted any plant pics of any sort in any fb groups or elsewhere. inbox me (lol)

This is why I said make it public.
You should be able to spew it off.
Why keep any sort of lineage private? ANYONE with common sense know that two people can take two plants, cross them and each person can come up with totally different plants. It just depends on the characteristics that each person chooses to try and bring out from that particular phenome expression.
It's not like someone can just duplicate the exact same plant

 

[Waira]

I am a pretty private person, I don't like to put everything out there. I don't want fame. I said that I breed, reselling Tiger-One genetics is not in by cards like most of my new competition. They are all R1 genetics at this time.

If any of the admins are running an indoor grow and are popping more soon, feel free to message me. I will send you some complimentary and you can run them next to your favorites. This is much better than just bashing my genetics and my resume as a breeder imo. If I was stubborn enough not to try new foods, I would be still eating the same foods I ate as a child. Don't be afraid of change.

The point being circled around here is vetting any and all private breeders, even commercial ones get the scope! Most other forums don't give fuck-all about their members, let it be the wild west and buyer beware and all that shit... We at AFN don't do that, we make a concerted effort to vett' companies big or small, but especially small scale/private breeders trying to work their brand, it's only smart, right? This forum is a no-troll zone, we don't allow the bitch-slapping fights that other places do, fair or otherwise, and all the fan-boi sychophantic BS that comes with it. This vetting cuts a lot of the BS out right off the bat, also just smart for our time and sanity's sake....
We have had several small bizz breeders get their start here, and some played the game right... Start with being just a plain old member, breeder aside, get to know some folks here, visit threads, engage them and they will gladly test your seeds I'm sure. Grow and show some of your own! From there, we start seeing results and with that comes credibility (or not!), then things can advance nicely from there potentially,... I'd say 2 outta 3 flake/burn/crap out one way or another, and thus we end up with proper support for a small bizz breeder to get their fair shot and grow their presence and brand here...
Look at Magic Seeds, or Mandalorian for examples - ...Hell, Mandalorian Genetics is from one of our oldest original Admin. folks, and he got no favors per se, he gutted up and started with just a couple threads, grow&show, then share, then sales came,... Magic, same deal and he was ill favored by some Staff as well for fair reason, but he prevailed by the sheer quality of his works, all well documented right here, live in-your-face style... Cripes, even the almighty Mephisto started humble as grits here, with plain talk, and grow & show long before they ever sold their first seed.... Sure worked for them, ay?

So, proof is in the pudding dude, there is no valid reason to have nothing (or next to it) to show but nice porn snapshots which don't "document" jackshit, right? Only Seed to Harvest journals do that...
Now the other side of the coin is the rest of the posers who come here with every fair chance to sink or float.... More often than not, they flail, leg hump, fuck up and bail, we have seen it time and again, so you must pardon our skepticism. .....Members may not get to be ugly trolly assholes about it, but they do not mince words and we let them back their comments up with what they show in journals! We work hard on our forum's rep', and it's stood the test of time, more than can be said about so many other places and worst of all, "social" media which is just Wankerville to the majority of staff here.... PPP and Greybeard have been flat out exposed as frauds that literally bank on P.T. Barnum's frank observations,....sadly it works! ...Do not model yourself after them and their "success", their stank has been rejected from here for valid reasons, not just being haters.

In your case, tossing free seeds out isn't how you do it here, sorry... You're being asked to build your good name from the ground up like anybody else, and for that there is no work around...

 

[420Forever]

The point being circled around here is vetting any and all private breeders, even commercial ones get the scope! Most other forums don't give fuck-all about their members, let it be the wild west and buyer beware and all that shit... We at AFN don't do that, we make a concerted effort to vett' companies big or small, but especially small scale/private breeders trying to work their brand, it's only smart, right? This forum is a no-troll zone, we don't allow the bitch-slapping fights that other places do, fair or otherwise, and all the fan-boi sychophantic BS that comes with it. This vetting cuts a lot of the BS out right off the bat, also just smart for our time and sanity's sake....
We have had several small bizz breeders get their start here, and some played the game right... Start with being just a plain old member, breeder aside, get to know some folks here, visit threads, engage them and they will gladly test your seeds I'm sure. Grow and show some of your own! From there, we start seeing results and with that comes credibility (or not!), then things can advance nicely from there potentially,... I'd say 2 outta 3 flake/burn/crap out one way or another, and thus we end up with proper support for a small bizz breeder to get their fair shot and grow their presence and brand here...
Look at Magic Seeds, or Mandalorian for examples - ...Hell, Mandalorian Genetics is from one of our oldest original Admin. folks, and he got no favors per se, he gutted up and started with just a couple threads, grow&show, then share, then sales come,... Magic, same deal and he was ill favored by some Staff as well for fair reason, but he prevailed by the sheer quality of his works, all well documented right here, live in-your-face style... Cripes, even the almighty Mephisto started humble as grits here, with plain talk, and grow & show long before they ever sold their first seed.... Sure worked for them, ay?

So, proof is in the pudding dude, there is no valid reason to have nothing (or next to it) to show but nice porn snapshots which don't "document" jackshit, right? Only Seed to Harvest journals do that...
Now the other side of the coin is the rest of the posers who come here with every fair chance to sink or float.... More often than not, they flail, leg hump, fuck up and bail, we have seen it time and again, so you must pardon our skepticism. .....Members may not get to be ugly trolly assholes about it, but they do not mince words and we let them back their comments up with what they show in journals! We work hard on our forum's rep', and it's stood the test of time, more than can be said about so many other places and worst of all, "social" media which is just Wankerville to the majority of staff here.... PPP and Greybeard have been flat out exposed as frauds that literally bank on P.T. Barnum's frank observations,....sadly it works! ...Do not model yourself after them and their "success", their stank has been rejected from here for valid reasons, not just being haters.

In your case, tossing free seeds out isn't how you do it here, sorry... You're being asked to build your good name from the ground up like anybody else, and for that there is no work around...

ppp

 

[Mossy]

Thread Closed for 24 hours until me and @Son of Hobbes can have a Talk...

Compulsory Smoke Break....

 

[brock1]

Well if anyone comes across any of my creations that I have shared I would like to just say now their legitimate. I don't sell seeds but I have given lots to server funds ect over their years so their starting to get about I have noticed. People on here can vouch I have been growing, breeding and collecting genetics online with documented grows online for well over decade. I see people are making crosses with my lines and inbreeding them then sharing them around that's cool by me. I know a lot of these people so if your ever offered anything I made and in doubt just give me a message. Ho and I promise I will document a few of my grows here this year instead of lurking in the background like a stalker

 

[WildBill]

I forgot about this thread, but it does come up at a good time. I have a quick story about the kind Breeder we want for AFN.

I had a friend that wanted some 'cat piss' canna, so I ordered some Twenty20 Trainwreck (Arcata Cut) F from a seed bank, after consulting with Adam about their strain.
I received the seeds quickly and uneventfully and promptly plopped them in water, using my normal germ procedures. I didn't get my normal results on the soak, but still planted them. I asked Twenty20 Adam about the germ characteristics and he immediately asked for my address for him to send me seeds directly from them! He's even sending me a new strain to test.
He didn't tell me to contact the seed vendor. He saw a problem that he could solve and THEN we can exchange info to find out exactly where the problem exists, so it can be prevented or lessened for future customers.
That adds mucho credibility in my book!
That's just ONE of the desirable characteristics of a AFN breeder!
Twenty20 Adam is an active member and is always helping members here. He is 100% free with any kind of info we ask for and also supplies specific info without being asked. He sees where there could be improvements or problems solved, he submits his knowledgeable info. And Adam defiantly knows their strains!

How could anyone ask more from a breeder/vendor? Hell! The only way he could do more is come out and grow them for you!