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I will put my 2cents in the biggest problem in my opinion is price and are there large pheno variations unfortunately prices are the only thing I go off of I like mephisto there genetics are quality ect but there price point is high in my opinion. I create crosses as I say and have multiple f3 strains no one knows me really but a hand full of people hear and I sell mine but I do so @ a reasonable price and send extra strains ect I do this simply bc I'm a grower aswell and know not every seed will germ ect I also don't claim to be a breader but as a grower if I see anything funky those seeds get tossed. It's very hard to judge an autoflower seed/company without giving them a run even the best breeders have crosses that didn't work out well the difference is a good person breeder or not will tell you this strain can hermie or wat ever the case may be. The biggest problem I see is mixed results you can grow 2 plants from almost any of the seeds I've seen so far and get wildly different results that's cool if ur looking for breeding stock but if not that sucks. So in a nut shell if a seed supplier/breeder is willing to send seeds out for community journals and of all growing styles aswell as levels of experience then they have confidence in there genetic pool take dinafem they come out with something new even though they are well established they want people to see how good there genetics are under a wide variety of grow styles climates ect. Also I give every breeder a chance I found a small one off type breeder who's genetics so far have been my favorite they are consistent potent and have great terps. Anyway that's my take on it.
Good morning everyone!
We had a pretty good discussion about this in our private gladiator sub-forum with some of the gladiators/product testers on the forum, and I wanted to extend it out here publicly because I think it would be great to get some rounded perspectives on this!
So the backstory on it is that I spend a lot of time looking around at genetic breeders for autoflowers in various places, and Facebook has REALLY BLOWN UP in terms of who is coming out of the woodwork with genetics (especially as legalization grows.) The problem is, every Tom, Dick, & Harry out there can call themselves a breeder, and the discussion was about "how do we establish credibility with a new breeder if no one has heard of them, or if they have genetics that seem to be a bit too far fetched/too good to be true, etc."
It's very easy to go "well, that can't be, screw these guys, they must be lying to make a buck," but sometimes that's actually NOT the case (and I don't want us to make blanket statements about what could be CREDIBLE people (because that doesn't reflect well on us either.)
So what do YOU think establishes credibility? Someone says "I breed autos" and they want to sell you seeds? What makes you go "I'll give this a shot?"
There's a breeder I won't mention (he got SLAMMED on Facebook recently for their strains, I think they had about 15-20 new auto strains come out this last year or so and they are all BIG name sounding, attractive sounding, "power word" named genetics. But the speed at which they are coming out, most people have called him out for just pollen chucking.
There's another breeder I've seen pushed in Missouri groups that's claiming to have pretty much ALL F6 and F7 autoflower seeds, but I've never even heard of the guy before. Probing into it, he runs 15k user group on Facebook that every other comment is praising his name, their genetics, etc (so it's not hard to see what's been done, it's a sham group to sell seeds. In fact, there's a LOT of sham groups on FB doing the same thing.)
Is there a way for us to establish credibility with some of these entities that you can think of, short of inviting them to the forum to have growers test out their stuff?
We've been told "you're too selective," and also "you're not selective enough" with who comes on the site, but sometimes we're just wanting to test the waters of those out there. Whether we give a thumbs up or thumbs down on someone, that seldom stops anyone from doing anything. But if we can create some guidelines to share with both new and experience growers on the site, maybe we can help avoid some of the headache and heartache of getting ripped off, or at least creating realistic expectations on what you might be getting with someone trying to sell you something.
Personally, I think if a breeder can't show you their breeding setup or talk in-depth about the process, it's extremely shady. I don't know anyone that spends signicant time with cannabis that doesn't like to nerd out, geek out, share out, and even brag a little about their successes, right?
What do YOU think, AFN?
Maybe we could get some feedback from some of the breeder reps on the forum too, or have them go up the line to the actual breeders themselves if they aren't doing it themselves, etc etc.