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I flushed them 4 days ago to get out extra lime. They are still half wet and i wait them to dry up to feed them. I didnt had the chance to really feed them nutes and calmag. Should i try 1 litre water with 1ml calmag and ph 6.5 and see?
No let it be until dry, wont hurt it much. Watering to often would be worse imo
 
Ok friend. Also what should i give her after she dry up?
If your in fabric pots put a small fan at the bottom of the tent pointing at the pots will help dry them a little quicker.

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I would go back with a light feed and full strength cal mag.
 
I would go back with a light feed and full strength cal mag.
I will do that. Thank you friend. But why i should have this problem? I mean the lime has mg and ca and other plants are not showing serious deficiency of calmg. Is it possible that my soil has calmag inside but this plant is having some kind of lockout and the roots dont absorb?
 
If your in fabric pots put a small fan at the bottom of the tent pointing at the pots will help dry them a little quicker.

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Cool hack James. One blowing the canopy and one at the pot i need to dry fast. Cant wait to finish work and open the tent to meet them again!
 
Cool hack James. One blowing the canopy and one at the pot i need to dry fast. Cant wait to finish work and open the tent to meet them again!
Yeah man simple but effective[emoji108]I use one quite a lot found getting a decent wet dry cycle encourages vast amounts of growth.

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You got some BAD info from your buddies or totally misunderstood the concept of adding lime to your soil. Lime is called a “buffer” agent but it doesn’t make soil a particular pH or turn water to the perfect pH when it’s added to the soil. What it does is add alkalinity to soil - raising the number of your pH reading. The more lime you add, the higher number you get for you soil pH. So, let’s say (hypothetically) a soil registered in at 5.5pH and you wanted to build your soil to have a pH of 6.5. You would add a particular amount of lime to the original soil and it would increase your soil pH to 6.5 IF, AND ONLY IF, you added the correct amount! There are ways to calculate the proper amount but that’s for another discussion.

Now, when you add water to that amended soil, the lime in the soil will NOT turn water that has a pH of (hypothetically) 5.0 into 6.5 water. It WILL help to ‘buffer’ the water SOME, so that the roots will not experience water of 5.0, but rather something probably in the order of maybe 5.5-5.7 in this particular hypothetical example. It imperative that you understand this concept! It’s not magic. Lime simply raises pH at a calculable rate. Nothing more. Lime should be added to soil that NEEDS it and not added just cuz some guy said so. Usually, a soil test is your best bet; but that’s a soil building topic - a HUGE and deep topic for another day. Usually, when you buy a well known and highly regarded soil like BioBizz, you don’t need to be adding stuff to it just to start growing. This is particularly true when you are going to be feeding bottled nutrients! In your case, you’d have been better off leaving the lime off (which you now know) and simply pH’ing your water and your feeds to ~6.3 - 6.5. Even with the lime in there, I’d just stick with pH’ing to 6.3 and continuing on. Lesson learned for next time. BioBizz soil is carefully crafted and balanced so that, IF you follow (to the letter) a proper feeding schedule from a good nutrient company like AN and pH your feeding/water to a proper pH, you shouldn’t have any issues and get a good crop. You took a well balanced soil and UNbalanced it!

On flushing: Next time you flush soil, use 2-3 times the volume of your pot worth of water. PH all the water to 6.5 and run it through as fast as you can. Don’t flush longer than about 30-40 minutes. Before you finish your flush...the LAST bit of liquid should be a 1/4 to 1/3 strength feeding! This provides the nutrients for the plant during the dry-out period. Some of the stunting you are having is, no doubt, due to the stress of the flush on such young plants. That and the excess water needed to flush.

You’re getting some good advice here. I’d ditch your friends that have been giving you bad advice on growing. Especially the guy who bad-mouthed autos. That guy doesn’t have a clue! Might be a great guy but obviously doesn’t have the knowledge to guide your growing adventure down a good path.

HTH
 
You got some BAD info from your buddies or totally misunderstood the concept of adding lime to your soil. Lime is called a “buffer” agent but it doesn’t make soil a particular pH or turn water to the perfect pH when it’s added to the soil. What it does is add alkalinity to soil - raising the number of your pH reading. The more lime you add, the higher number you get for you soil pH. So, let’s say (hypothetically) a soil registered in at 5.5pH and you wanted to build your soil to have a pH of 6.5. You would add a particular amount of lime to the original soil and it would increase your soil pH to 6.5 IF, AND ONLY IF, you added the correct amount! There are ways to calculate the proper amount but that’s for another discussion.

Now, when you add water to that amended soil, the lime in the soil will NOT turn water that has a pH of (hypothetically) 5.0 into 6.5 water. It WILL help to ‘buffer’ the water SOME, so that the roots will not experience water of 5.0, but rather something probably in the order of maybe 5.5-5.7 in this particular hypothetical example. It imperative that you understand this concept! It’s not magic. Lime simply raises pH at a calculable rate. Nothing more. Lime should be added to soil that NEEDS it and not added just cuz some guy said so. Usually, a soil test is your best bet; but that’s a soil building topic - a HUGE and deep topic for another day. Usually, when you buy a well known and highly regarded soil like BioBizz, you don’t need to be adding stuff to it just to start growing. This is particularly true when you are going to be feeding bottled nutrients! In your case, you’d have been better off leaving the lime off (which you now know) and simply pH’ing your water and your feeds to ~6.3 - 6.5. Even with the lime in there, I’d just stick with pH’ing to 6.3 and continuing on. Lesson learned for next time. BioBizz soil is carefully crafted and balanced so that, IF you follow (to the letter) a proper feeding schedule from a good nutrient company like AN and pH your feeding/water to a proper pH, you shouldn’t have any issues and get a good crop. You took a well balanced soil and UNbalanced it!

On flushing: Next time you flush soil, use 2-3 times the volume of your pot worth of water. PH all the water to 6.5 and run it through as fast as you can. Don’t flush longer than about 30-40 minutes. Before you finish your flush...the LAST bit of liquid should be a 1/4 to 1/3 strength feeding! This provides the nutrients for the plant during the dry-out period. Some of the stunting you are having is, no doubt, due to the stress of the flush on such young plants. That and the excess water needed to flush.

You’re getting some good advice here. I’d ditch your friends that have been giving you bad advice on growing. Especially the guy who bad-mouthed autos. That guy doesn’t have a clue! Might be a great guy but obviously doesn’t have the knowledge to guide your growing adventure down a good path.

HTH
You couldnt be more on point about lime. It also has raised my EC levels. There is a lot of calmag inside lime too among other ingredients. I am truelly disappointed right now of the outcome. I think i will stop this grow and restart with a clean soil. Also his threads are locked and cant add any comments under his instructions to warn other growers about the lime doselogy. Just like this i lost a lot of money. This is not a lesson i learned but a disaster.

Now the question is should i take them down and start over or continue by reading of runoffs and act accordingly?
I know that they have been stressed and facing deficiencies from very early and that will affect quality and quantity. Is it worthing keep them going?
 
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