Dialing In MEGA CROP for Auto's

[Nosias]

It's my opinion that most "suplements' are snakeoil and don't use them. There is science to support my stand but I won't go into it here. So just Megacrop start to finish.

Well this is where I am doing what my ladies say they need. I am using 25-30 ml of liquid Cal/Mg per mix of nutes. Otherwise they get all limey and I see those spots of death on the leaves.

In 16 Liters mix I use for flower is 16 grams of MC2, 2 grams of Sweet Candy (old formula), 25-30 ml of liquid Cal/mg and 8-10 grams of Bud Explosion (old formula) This last two days.

I respect and follow most of these fellow growers. We all do what we find will bring us success. I do value science over believe. There are many paths.

 

[pop22]

By supplement I really meant "bloom boosters" and "Bud Hardeners" Etc. Greenleaf Nutrients themselves tell you you don't need those "supplements" so why
spend money on them.
Honest supplements like Cal/Mag and other actual micro nutrient additives are of course fine. Guess I could have worded that better.

Well this is where I am doing what my ladies say they need. I am using 25-30 ml of liquid Cal/Mg per mix of nutes. Otherwise they get all limey and I see those spots of death on the leaves.

In 16 Liters mix I use for flower is 16 grams of MC2, 2 grams of Sweet Candy (old formula), 25-30 ml of liquid Cal/mg and 8-10 grams of Bud Explosion (old formula) This last two days.

I respect and follow most of these fellow growers. We all do what we find will bring us success. I do value science over believe. There are many paths.

 

[Simplicio]

By supplement I really meant "bloom boosters" and "Bud Hardeners" Etc. Greenleaf Nutrients themselves tell you you don't need those "supplements" so why
spend money on them.
Honest supplements like Cal/Mag and other actual micro nutrient additives are of course fine. Guess I could have worded that better.

I continue to be baffled by this.
Why does anyone spend money on a supplement that the base fertilizer company says isn't needed?
Apparently the psychological need to always be doing something to/for our plants trumps all else.
If a fertilizer company recommends supplements beyond their base fertilizer, that's an admission that their base fertilizer is lacking.

Because of RO/tap/distilled water issues, CalMag is probably an exception.

 

[Nosias]

By supplement I really meant "bloom boosters" and "Bud Hardeners" Etc. Greenleaf Nutrients themselves tell you you don't need those "supplements" so why
spend money on them.
Honest supplements like Cal/Mag and other actual micro nutrient additives are of course fine. Guess I could have worded that better.

I thought you worded it very clear. I guess I have hung around you for a spell so I knew where you were going. MC has put as much in their nutes as they can, just so we do not need to add any "essence of the tooth fairy's grandfather.s green thumb."

 

[Nosias]

I continue to be baffled by this.
Why does anyone spend money on a supplement that the base fertilizer company says isn't needed?
Apparently the psychological need to always be doing something to/for our plants trumps all else.
If a fertilizer company recommends supplements beyond their base fertilizer, that's an admission that their base fertilizer is lacking.

Because of RO/tap/distilled water issues, CalMag is probably an exception.

It is the pursuit of the legal tender that drives them. Money, money mooonnnnneeeeyyyyyy. It is a earthly human nature to see something great and then have the desire to tinker with it to make it better. So some of these companies are just providing us with the tiny tools to tinker. I know I am getting a bit silly.

 

[Mañ'O'Green]

I continue to be baffled by this.
Why does anyone spend money on a supplement that the base fertilizer company says isn't needed?
Apparently the psychological need to always be doing something to/for our plants trumps all else.
If a fertilizer company recommends supplements beyond their base fertilizer, that's an admission that their base fertilizer is lacking.

Because of RO/tap/distilled water issues, CalMag is probably an exception.

You may be baffled because this is a very complex subject. Much of it goes over the heads of many stoner growers. I contunue to learn every day. That is fine. You can grow a good plant using just Mega Crop. You can grow better plants with just a little tweaking. A main reason for having supplements to the base fertilizer is driven by chemistry. If some nutrients in concentration are mixed into the base they bind to other nutrients making both unavailable to the plant (lock-out). So they cannot come in the base but are very useful to the plant and a well balanced fertilizer.

For me growing my meds is a main activity as I am retired from work to watch the grass grow. The desire to do the best I can drives the search for knowledge in the use of nutrients and methods of growing.

If you are in soil (especially organic) there is much to learn at first and then it falls into a routine. The well prepared soil holds and provides the different needed nutrients that are available when needed by the plant. Supplements in this case play a lessor role. If you grow Hydro this is a whole different practice. You must provide the nutrients needed by the plant when needed. Cannabis (as well as most plants) need different nutrients at different stages of growth. This is the reason for so many Veg, Flower and additives in the market.

With the new 2 part Mega Crop You can dial in the NPK ratios to match the stage of growth the plant is in.

Some additives that I find useful that may not be in many base nutrients (not in the new 2 part MC) are Kelp, Humic and Fulvic Acids, B1, Silicon, Yucca Powder and Botinicare HydroGuard. I also supplement with some NPK Industries RAW products Potassium, Phosphorus, Nitrogen when the plants tell me they need it.

If I could only have one fertilizer it would be the new MC one part.

 

[Mizzo81]

You may be baffled because this is a very complex subject. Much of it goes over the heads of many stoner growers. I contunue to learn every day. That is fine. You can grow a good plant using just Mega Crop. You can grow better plants with just a little tweaking. A main reason for having supplements to the base fertilizer is driven by chemistry. If some nutrients in concentration are mixed into the base they bind to other nutrients making both unavailable to the plant (lock-out). So they cannot come in the base but are very useful to the plant and a well balanced fertilizer.

For me growing my meds is a main activity as I am retired from work to watch the grass grow. The desire to do the best I can drives the search for knowledge in the use of nutrients and methods of growing.

If you are in soil (especially organic) there is much to learn at first and then it falls into a routine. The well prepared soil holds and provides the different needed nutrients that are available when needed by the plant. Supplements in this case play a lessor role. If you grow Hydro this is a whole different practice. You must provide the nutrients needed by the plant when needed. Cannabis (as well as most plants) need different nutrients at different stages of growth. This is the reason for so many Veg, Flower and additives in the market.

With the new 2 part Mega Crop You can dial in the NPK ratios to match the stage of growth the plant is in.

Some additives that I find useful that may not be in many base nutrients (not in the new 2 part MC) are Kelp, Humic and Fulvic Acids, B1, Silicon, Yucca Powder and Botinicare HydroGuard. I also supplement with some NPK Industries RAW products Potassium, Phosphorus, Nitrogen when the plants tell me they need it.

If I could only have one fertilizer it would be the new MC one part.

That’s why I use their sweet candy some stuff was left out of the two part and I believe even the original formula had some stuff missing that they put in sweet candy.

 

[pop22]

I recently posted a link to a podcast by Dr. Allison Justice, PHD, in which she stated that Cannabis needs 7-17 ppms of Phosphorus and that adding another 200 ppms is a waste that she doesn't understand. Take a listen, there is a lot of good information in this. Her main focus is . She pretty much confirms what I've been saying for some time now that people overfeed their plants to no gain at all. So PK boosters, etc are a waste of money, and so is anything that simply adds more of what you already have i the only thing they are feeding is the nutrient companies bank account.

here's my post:

https://www.kisorganics.com/blogs/podcast/cannabis-cultivation-and-science-podcast-episode-43

 

[pop22]

You got it right, the biggest scam in the world is bottled nutrients! That $20 - $40 bottled has as much nutrient in it as a bout a $1.00 worth of Megacrop.......... A 750 gram bag of MC cost my less than $20 shipped and fed a conservative average of 12 plants per grow for almost a year and a half!

spoke to Greenleaf regarding importing there product, not an issue, I will will pay the customs myself to pass the product for future importing (not that expensive$350 approx NZ opens the door to import bulk ).. MC in my view would be one of the best and cheapest in the market- dont need the bottle rubbish-not looking to get involved in the industry but there is only bottle crap avaible here and to much sh*t buy sales reps trying sell sh*t- and yes I swear by Mega Crop V1 and BE with 1 or 2 pinches of epsom and a spray or 2 of kelp

 

[Simplicio]

You may be baffled because this is a very complex subject. Much of it goes over the heads of many stoner growers. I contunue to learn every day. That is fine. You can grow a good plant using just Mega Crop. You can grow better plants with just a little tweaking. A main reason for having supplements to the base fertilizer is driven by chemistry. If some nutrients in concentration are mixed into the base they bind to other nutrients making both unavailable to the plant (lock-out). So they cannot come in the base but are very useful to the plant and a well balanced fertilizer.

For me growing my meds is a main activity as I am retired from work to watch the grass grow. The desire to do the best I can drives the search for knowledge in the use of nutrients and methods of growing.

If you are in soil (especially organic) there is much to learn at first and then it falls into a routine. The well prepared soil holds and provides the different needed nutrients that are available when needed by the plant. Supplements in this case play a lessor role. If you grow Hydro this is a whole different practice. You must provide the nutrients needed by the plant when needed. Cannabis (as well as most plants) need different nutrients at different stages of growth. This is the reason for so many Veg, Flower and additives in the market.

With the new 2 part Mega Crop You can dial in the NPK ratios to match the stage of growth the plant is in.

Some additives that I find useful that may not be in many base nutrients (not in the new 2 part MC) are Kelp, Humic and Fulvic Acids, B1, Silicon, Yucca Powder and Botinicare HydroGuard. I also supplement with some NPK Industries RAW products Potassium, Phosphorus, Nitrogen when the plants tell me they need it.

If I could only have one fertilizer it would be the new MC one part.

I understand that people have what they consider to be good reasons for using supplements.
That's not the source of my bafflement.
What I consider to be spending on unneeded suplements is.

The issue still remains that GreenLeaf says that nothing else is needed.
Should we believe annecdotal reports, or the fertilizer company?