Current Live Stoner Gossip May June July 2018

[HushHush]

I came for the growing knowledge and will never cease to be amazed by the 'other ' knowledge i find out about. I will look it up my friend.

Thank you kindly

HH

Sorry to hear about your wife....... I'm pre diabetic also, you may know there is a relatively new sweetner on the market that is made from certain plant sugars....its called stevia extract. It appears to safe as it is 100% natural.....measures cup for cup like sugar and has no bad or after taste that I can discern. I drink tons of sweet coffee daily and by using this and cutting out sugar just about entirely was able to drop my blood test back to normal levels. Surely you must have it on your side of the pond. Good luck to your wife!

 

[HushHush]

Probably cos it's usually Baltic there!!

HH

Scotland has the highest percentage of red haired people in the world.

 

[hesgone13]

My landlady is Chinese !!! You keep stepping in it don't you .

So what, my landlady is from Honduras...........but you know what......she's not from the country who manufactures 90% of the world's fireworks....which if you would take the time to think about it.........was the whole point of my post! I don't know who peed in your cornflakes yesterday, but you were the only person on this forum that thought my original post then was dissing Canada in any way.

 

[Feenix]

Hey Arty Zan. Good to see you. Hope you've been well.

For what it's worth, here's this not-so-experienced grower's opinion on that..

First, I haven't seen anything on the subject that references or establishes scientific fact. It's all theory (and sometimes less than well informed theory). The bottom line is do whatever works for you.

I don't buy into the idea that LST can replace defoil at any stage of growth. Both are important and effective techniques. Sometimes it's a better idea to remove a fan than just move it out of the way. Other times that is the only option. For example, my Cheese is just starting to think about pre-flower. Still stretching and all that. There are some large fans that are obscuring some potential budsites very near the top of the plant. I could use LST to just make the branch horizontal, which would expose the other budsites, but lopping off the fan that is blocking the light seems much less stressful for the plant. If height was a concern, LST without hesitation. That's not the case here.

So here is also my less-than-well-informed theory. Just food for thought... The plants will build fans no matter what is in the feed. It's what they do. Do they "need" the fans? Well, no reason to remove them during veg UNLESS you want to increase the light to a potential budsite. Sometimes you just can't do this with LST. And no real reason to do it during flower unless they are blocking light from where you want it to go.

I am naturally inclined to let the plant do what it wants and only stepping in when I have to. So take my opinion with that in mind.

I've not tried lollipopping or any other large-scale defoil method, so I have no opinion on it. There is no denying that it works, and there are plenty of grow journals here documenting that.

Here's a pic of my now overdue GG4 grow. I think we're on day 76 now, and flowering has just started to take off. And take off it has. There are more nodes with budsites than those without. If I can nurse this thing across the finish line, I am expecting a pretty fat yield. My approach is as I described above. If I see a budsite in shade, I look for the offending fan and it is gone. Other than that, I am not convinced that the more fans I remove, the more energy the plant puts into flower production. Like I said earlier, the plant is gonna do what it's gonna do. If anything, in my opinion, removing fans has zero effect on bud growth outside of allowing in more light.

You might be able to see the network of pipe-cleaners in the forest. That's how I do LST. I bind the branch to another branch, so it can grow with the plant, and not hold things to a fixed height.



Anyway, this is all just my opinion, and is based on limited experience but a good deal of research.

Hope this helps.

Well said, you're here at home so your opinion counts. We should establish what a young auto flower is. With 25 days or so til flowering begins the youngster stage doesn't last long. By the time stretch starts, they aren't young any more. I'm with you if by the time the big fans show up, the branching isn't as expected, pull the fans if need be. I pull them early sometimes just to slow the vertical growth of the main stem if it looks like height could be a problem. One way to look at it, as a rule of thumb, is if photosynthesis is producing growth why pull them until they slow or stop. Nothings carved in stone..

Hey, Trail, Archie, Ozone, 9Bear. EP, Mossy, ChefDave, Bushy,, all we need is @TheElvis and his band and we have a party..

 

[Oily Mark]

 

[Dr Fluff]

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[Oily Mark]

Love it.

 

[Dr Fluff]

Hey Arty Zan. Good to see you. Hope you've been well.



Well said, you're here at home so your opinion counts. We should establish what a young auto flower is. With 25 days or so til flowering begins the youngster stage doesn't last long. By the time stretch starts, they aren't young any more. I'm with you if by the time the big fans show up, the branching isn't as expected, pull the fans if need be. I pull them early sometimes just to slow the vertical growth of the main stem if it looks like height could be a problem. One way to look at it, as a rule of thumb, is if photosynthesis is producing growth why pull them until they slow or stop. Nothings carved in stone..

Hey, Trail, Archie, Ozone, 9Bear. EP, Mossy, ChefDave, Bushy,, all we need is @TheElvis and his band and we have a party..

Hey there Feenix, Good to see you too bro! Just recovering from a bad back but it aint too bad now. Work is mad busy but hopefully I'll get a bit more time to pop in now!

 

[Dr Fluff]

Hey Arty Zan. Good to see you. Hope you've been well.



Well said, you're here at home so your opinion counts. We should establish what a young auto flower is. With 25 days or so til flowering begins the youngster stage doesn't last long. By the time stretch starts, they aren't young any more. I'm with you if by the time the big fans show up, the branching isn't as expected, pull the fans if need be. I pull them early sometimes just to slow the vertical growth of the main stem if it looks like height could be a problem. One way to look at it, as a rule of thumb, is if photosynthesis is producing growth why pull them until they slow or stop. Nothings carved in stone..

Hey, Trail, Archie, Ozone, 9Bear. EP, Mossy, ChefDave, Bushy,, all we need is @TheElvis and his band and we have a party..

Hey there Feenix, Good to see you too bro! Just recovering from a bad back but it aint too bad now. Work is mad busy but hopefully I'll get a bit more time to pop in now!

 

[Dr Fluff]

Going out too the one like @Oily Mark , hold up da chalwa and lick that chalice for dem hafi bun.