Cloning Autoflowers

[JohnEMad]

My take on cloning auto flowers: If its for more flowers then the earlier you take the cuttings and the longer the plants flowering/growing cycle the better. Here are the 2 clones cut Feb 02 from a Creme de la Chem at day 23. Was showing plenty of pistils at this point. Just put them in tap water and set on a window ledge. Took 2 full weeks or a little more to get roots. Planted in coco/perlite in solo cups. The clones were harvested April 5th and produced close to 1/2 oz dry. This was worth it to me for the little effort needed.

Guess I didn't take pictures of the roots but I posted my earliest pics right after planting in solo cups.

I have never had problems rooting the cuttings whether from photoperiod or autoflowering strains.

 

[Son of Hobbes]

Any of you have pictures of the roots on those clones? Our Facebook group doesn't believe it without seeing pictures of the roots. lol

 

[Proph]

I know I showed the process in one of my old journals.. I'll look through em

 

[Farmerlion]

True auto flowering genetics are best left to their natural growth cycles. A clone is the age of the mother. It's certainly impractical for clone sales. By the time it's rooted, it's in flowering.

You end up with a very small plant and minimal yields. As well an auto flowering plant should never be topped. If you want more cannabis, plant another seed. Think of cannabis plants as the house in cards. The house almost always wins.
You may get a hand every now and then, but in the end you lose. Improve your environment for the highest quality possible. You will find that the quantity follows.

If you're using a small tent and low wattage lights. You are your own worst enemy. Genetics can't overcome a poor environment. If you want to grow the rest of your life? Get a residence that suites growing. Then clones are immaterial. Focus on the environment first. Everything else will fall into place.
Peace farmerlion

 

[Proph]

True auto flowering genetics are best left to their natural growth cycles. A clone is the age of the mother. It's certainly impractical for clone sales. By the time it's rooted, it's in flowering.

You end up with a very small plant and minimal yields. As well an auto flowering plant should never be topped. If you want more cannabis, plant another seed. Think of cannabis plants as the house in cards. The house almost always wins.
You may get a hand every now and then, but in the end you lose. Improve your environment for the highest quality possible. You will find that the quantity follows.

If you're using a small tent and low wattage lights. You are your own worst enemy. Genetics can't overcome a poor environment. If you want to grow the rest of your life? Get a residence that suites growing. Then clones are immaterial. Focus on the environment first. Everything else will fall into place.
Peace farmerlion

Lol.. This is the Autoflower Network.. Where we have already debunked every point stated above. We top, we clone, we lst, we supercrop, and do anything else they say that can't and shouldnt be done with autos. The line of thinking you are following is outdated. I've grown a 5 oz plant in a 2x2 tent with a single 50w autocob.. So have many others here.. So that small tent, low wattage thinking is also outdated.

I have a couple of young autos going now... I'll start a journal and do a cloning tutorial in it. I have too many old threads to go through to be able to find pics.

 

[GeorgeCloney]

Ok folks, let the rediculous begin!
(Day 1, April 11)

I've pulled 4 males of 8 plants from the tent this aft.
They got replaced with 4 females from a second grow 2 weeks behind these.

So for everybodys entertainment.
I've attached some pictures of todays efforts with some explanations.

4 male Dr.Feelgood which are 4 weeks old.

Cuttings were taken at the top (left glass),..middle of the plants (center glass), and lowest branches at node1 (right glass).

This is my DIY aqua cloner, its a 30liter pail from Walmart ($10), air pump and water pump, air stones & hose (PetSmart $45)

Holes were cut out with a door handle drill bit. The baskets(50) and inserts(30) were bought on Amazon ($10)

A 1-7/8" hole is best for these baskets, the small end is 1-3/4,..with a 2" lip, all baskets need to be in place to avoid evaporation.

Only Clonex is being used in this experiment (so anybody else trying this can expect the same results).
The pail holds 28 liters, Clonex call for 5-10 ml / liter, so I mixed in 140ml.
Cuttings were scraped at the first 1/2 inch, then dipped in the Clonex gel.

PH was set to 5.8

18 clones should come out of this experiment. 6 from the 1st node (set of 6 on the right side of the cloner),...6 from the middle of the 4 plants
(which are the 6 in the middle of the cloner) ,...and 6 from the top branches (set of 6 on the left side).

 

[Jimmythenugg]

The line of thinking you are following is outdated

Hear hear!!

@Farmerlion while I agree with the main principal in what you say on topic:

You end up with a very small plant and minimal yields.

But not topping?!?
Come on, most of us do, and with good reason - it works.

 

[Son of Hobbes]

Ok folks, let the rediculous begin!
(Day 1, April 11)

I've pulled 4 males of 8 plants from the tent this aft.
They got replaced with 4 females from a second grow 2 weeks behind these.

So for everybodys entertainment.
I've attached some pictures of todays efforts with some explanations.

4 male Dr.Feelgood which are 4 weeks old.
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Cuttings were taken at the top (left glass),..middle of the plants (center glass), and lowest branches at node1 (right glass).
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This is my DIY aqua cloner, its a 30liter pail from Walmart ($10), air pump and water pump, air stones & hose (PetSmart $45)
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Holes were cut out with a door handle drill bit. The baskets(50) and inserts(30) were bought on Amazon ($10)
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A 1-7/8" hole is best for these baskets, the small end is 1-3/4,..with a 2" lip, all baskets need to be in place to avoid evaporation.
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Only Clonex is being used in this experiment (so anybody else trying this can expect the same results).
The pail holds 28 liters, Clonex call for 5-10 ml / liter, so I mixed in 140ml.
Cuttings were scraped at the first 1/2 inch, then dipped in the Clonex gel.
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PH was set to 5.8
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18 clones should come out of this experiment. 6 from the 1st node (set of 6 on the right side of the cloner),...6 from the middle of the 4 plants
(which are the 6 in the middle of the cloner) ,...and 6 from the top branches (set of 6 on the left side).

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[pop22]

Funny, this is the one thing I've never made a serious effort at. Maybe I'll play around with this I've got nothing but time to spare lol!

I do know without a doubt that topping, fimming, scrogging all work well. some strains take to it better that others, but photo periods are that way also. Took me 2 years to get better than 30% success cloning ducksfoot..... she's a bitch to clone! 2+ weeks under a humidity dome with the humidity kept as high as you can get it, then as soon as you see new growth, ween them off the humidity.

@Proph i'm looking forward to your thread!

 

[Son of Hobbes]

Funny, this is the one thing I've never made a serious effort at. Maybe I'll play around with this I've got nothing but time to spare lol!

I do know without a doubt that topping, fimming, scrogging all work well. some strains take to it better that others, but photo periods are that way also. Took me 2 years to get better than 30% success cloning ducksfoot..... she's a bitch to clone! 2+ weeks under a humidity dome with the humidity kept as high as you can get it, then as soon as you see new growth, ween them off the humidity.

@Proph i'm looking forward to your thread!

Do it up! You're the original AFN myth buster (in fact, we created this subforum because of you if you remember lol.)